RE: A timeless being cannot create
July 19, 2019 at 4:08 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2019 at 4:14 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Bel is working from the -pagan- philosophy that was cribbed and modified to provide a tenuous basis for Christian philosophy, amusingly unaware that they are not interchangeable.
Your god, in that order of things, is demiurge ( or less). Lower in order, mutable, something that does things and can be pleaded with and, in fact... can change its mind.
You see, you can’t pray to the classical pagan all. It isn’t a being and it doesn’t directly create or effect or intervene or even know. It doesn’t -do- anything... it simply is.
It isn’t exactly a secret that the “god of the philosophers” isn’t the Christian god. Frankly, it plays out more like raw secular nature than anything else.
Even Saint Tom knew that. That was why special revelation was required. Why natural theology could not provide for or establish either the Christian god or Christian Christ. To get from, there....to where you are ( and don’t worry your pretty little head about the issues covering that distance creates).
Your god, in that order of things, is demiurge ( or less). Lower in order, mutable, something that does things and can be pleaded with and, in fact... can change its mind.
You see, you can’t pray to the classical pagan all. It isn’t a being and it doesn’t directly create or effect or intervene or even know. It doesn’t -do- anything... it simply is.
It isn’t exactly a secret that the “god of the philosophers” isn’t the Christian god. Frankly, it plays out more like raw secular nature than anything else.
Even Saint Tom knew that. That was why special revelation was required. Why natural theology could not provide for or establish either the Christian god or Christian Christ. To get from, there....to where you are ( and don’t worry your pretty little head about the issues covering that distance creates).
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