RE: A timeless being cannot create
July 20, 2019 at 9:01 pm
(This post was last modified: July 20, 2019 at 9:02 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(July 20, 2019 at 5:50 pm)Belaqua Wrote:(July 20, 2019 at 9:15 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: Seriously ... you offer Aquinas ?
It's difficult to have a conversation with you, because you approach metaphysics as if it were pro wrestling. Everything is a fight with you.
The OP is asking how Christian theology explains God's creation. To understand that, we need to understand Thomas Aquinas. We are looking into how a large group of other people think.
I have not said that Christian theology is correct.
Actually he didn't ask that at all. It's how you mistranslated it, into your world-view.
Quote:OP :
I think there's a logical argument to be made against God's existence here on the basis of incompatible properties. God is outside time, we're told. He's not only eternal (existing forever) but also unaffected by temporal changes.
He gets the problem perfectly. Being "unaffected by temporal changes" is not the problem.
Using temporal concepts and ascribing then TO THE GOD, IS the problem. Creating and making time are temporal concepts and cannot be ascribed to a timeless being.
It's as simple as that. They are incompatible and incoherent, just like a round square is incoherent.
Aquinas didn't even get the problem.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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