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The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence
RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence
(July 22, 2019 at 7:51 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Can you give two examples of something that didn’t begin to exist?

This illustrates one of the main flaws with cosmological arguments, they seem to be smuggling in the conclusion in the first premises. Including the version in the OP.

Premise 1 creates 2 sets: one set of all things that begin to exist, and (unstated) all things that do not begin to exist.

If the argument presenter only has one member of the set of all things that don't begin to exist (their god), the argument is circular.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence - by Nogba - July 13, 2019 at 6:52 am
RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence - by Cod - July 13, 2019 at 7:15 am
RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence - by Cod - July 13, 2019 at 7:27 am
RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence - by Cod - July 13, 2019 at 7:46 am
RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence - by Nogba - July 13, 2019 at 10:02 am
RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence - by Nogba - July 13, 2019 at 11:36 am
RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence - by Nogba - July 13, 2019 at 12:50 pm
RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence - by comet - July 23, 2019 at 12:44 pm
RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence - by comet - July 27, 2019 at 10:19 pm
RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence - by comet - July 28, 2019 at 10:53 am
RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence - by Sal - July 29, 2019 at 10:33 pm
RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence - by comet - August 2, 2019 at 6:34 am
RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence - by comet - August 2, 2019 at 9:11 am
RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence - by comet - July 17, 2019 at 10:59 am
RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence - by Cod - July 21, 2019 at 4:36 pm
RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence - by Simon Moon - July 22, 2019 at 3:27 pm
RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence - by comet - August 2, 2019 at 11:44 am

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