RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence
July 22, 2019 at 5:34 pm
(This post was last modified: July 22, 2019 at 5:48 pm by comet.)
(July 22, 2019 at 3:33 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:(July 22, 2019 at 1:50 pm)comet Wrote: thats it then. its bs to you. Before they knew what the atom was made up of it was metaphysical BS to you. To me it is not BS, its learning.
and no, knowing how to predict the out come is totally different than knowing where it comes and what it is. My wife knows a car and how they behave. she doesn't have clue to the parts that make it up.
maybe it might be better for us to put it in those terms for you. We don't know what the pieces are that make up energy (if there are pieces that is), or the fabric of space/time or gravity.
this is actually way short of understanding. the quantum behavior of space/time determines exactly how the atom behaves. What you are talking about is how we can ignore the underlining quantum effects to do "chemistry" at our level. In most cases. But the discoveries we have made, ie materials and other technologies, are based precisely on quantum affects and relativity.
valance shell electrons, our everyday chemistry, only works in the quantum world.
I am so not sure why you are dismissing the fact that the standard model is based on quantum particles? what the problem for you? they are just the facts of the standard model?
why is that?
I'm not dismissing that. There is obviously more that exists, IF one set of them can be one temperature, and another identical set be another temperature. The energy that heats up one set is not nothing, and is not known to be a set of quantum particles. In the linear accelerator are quantum particles speeding up and smashing quantum particles ? No. Why build the damn thing if they are ?
ok, youre limiting it to heat energy, as defined, the "energy that flows from hot to cold". I am telling you they do not know what energy is. Thats just fact buck, there is nothing we can do about that. I am sorry.
The standard model is based on quantum particles so it not metaphysics. as a matter fact, they are quantum particles (actually i would say "particles that follow quantum mechanics) that they are studying in particle accelerators. . everything you see is a set of interactions of particles popping into and out of existence. They are not like a "rock" you pick up and hold. they are more like bubbles on the surface of water. Physicists do NOT know why quantum mechanics works, they just know it works. Like my wife can drive a car but doesn't know anything about it. There are no static things.
for example, a proton. A proton is a lot of particles that "pop into and out of" existence. We call the net set "a proton". think of it like this, a proton is more like a football game than a marble. what do I mean by that.? I think it might help us talk about this if you watch "how small is it 05" on youtube. its boring as all get out, so just rewind it when you fall sleep, lmao, I think I fell a sleep 20 times. But watch it,
I assume the by the way you are defending yourself you have some training so you should understand it. if you don't I would be kind of bummed.
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