RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence
July 29, 2019 at 9:33 pm
(This post was last modified: July 29, 2019 at 9:38 pm by comet.)
(July 29, 2019 at 4:05 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:(July 29, 2019 at 3:00 pm)comet Wrote: I didn't say QM provides a mechanism. I said, to me, it shows that there is a mechanism for space/time at it fundamental level. If anything, QM shows that we do not know what the mechanism is. which we do not.
you seem to be saying, and please correct me if I am wrong, that there are no mechanisms. I am saying that I think there are mechanisms. All i am saying is that because we make predictions with QM that I think there is a mechanism to it. we do not know what that mechanism is tho.
I don't agree with you about using QM and Gravity. Just because we can use it doesn't mean we know what it is. My wife has no idea 'what a car is", she only knows how to use it. the same thing goes for QM and gravity.
Lets clear that bit up first before we go to "something". ok?
What is the basis of your thinking there is a mechanism? Other than some conviction that any behavior must have a mechanism?
Let's say, hypothetically, it is in principle correct that any behavior must have underlying mechanism, so there must be underlying mechanism beneath QM. Would each component of that mechanism in turn requires yet more granular sub-mechanism to justify the behavior of the mechanism? So do you postulate an infinite stack of mechanisms, like a building that has no foundation because its basement goes down infinitely deep? Or do you accept at some level the stack stops, because the entire stack of mechanism can in fact be supported on some ultimate discernible foundation beneath which there are no further mechanisms?
one thing at a time. lmao at conviction. like your conviction to no mechanism? but ok, lets look.
I have a choice "possibly a mechanism" and/or 'possibly no mechanism". lets apply a little common sense.
1) QM has made correct predictions every time. that means our math model seems to be correct. Our math being correct means there is some type of predictable pattern(s). Patterns imply possible mechanisms for me.
2) we see mechanisms in everything else we see. Since I see mechanisms everywhere, I predict a mechanism for QM too.
Those two are good enough, Toss in the fact that science is looking for the mechanism right now. So many others, much smarter than me, think so too. Nail in coffin ... the standard model as represented by the PT. Thats is why I lean towards a mechanism.
what is your evidence for holding to your conviction of no mechanisms?
anti-logical Fallacies of Ambiguity