(July 31, 2019 at 9:17 pm)Acrobat Wrote:(July 31, 2019 at 8:47 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Did it take your God to set the ought?
No, I don’t believe in any type of God that “sets” “makes” or “creates” oughts.
The ought comes from the recognization of what’s objectively wrong. Your the one suggesting that it takes society to set oughts.
Quote:Stealing causes some form of harm to others. Since it's bad for us to do this, then we ought not to do it. It's that simple.
I recognize that stealing is wrong, it’s from the recognition that it’s wrong, that I recognize that I ought not to do it, not from society, or some ought setting god.
(July 31, 2019 at 9:14 pm)Grandizer Wrote: And that's really all I'm interested in here. If there is a God who sets the rules
I don’t believe in a God who “sets” moral rules, so you should perhaps ask that to some theist who does.
I get the bit where you believe the rules aren't literally created. But you believe in some shape or form that the rules are contingent on God or that God and the rules are one or something like that. I guess I'm just trying to figure what exactly is the point of your God when it comes to morality if morality can be objective without God, and for whatever reason, you like last time we had this discussion a while ago choose not to elaborate on this bit.