RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence
August 2, 2019 at 6:34 am
(This post was last modified: August 2, 2019 at 6:35 am by comet.)
(July 30, 2019 at 7:25 am)polymath257 Wrote:(July 29, 2019 at 9:33 pm)comet Wrote: one thing at a time. lmao at conviction. like your conviction to no mechanism? but ok, lets look.
I have a choice "possibly a mechanism" and/or 'possibly no mechanism". lets apply a little common sense.
1) QM has made correct predictions every time. that means our math model seems to be correct. Our math being correct means there is some type of predictable pattern(s). Patterns imply possible mechanisms for me.
2) we see mechanisms in everything else we see. Since I see mechanisms everywhere, I predict a mechanism for QM too.
Those two are good enough, Toss in the fact that science is looking for the mechanism right now. So many others, much smarter than me, think so too. Nail in coffin ... the standard model as represented by the PT. Thats is why I lean towards a mechanism.
what is your evidence for holding to your conviction of no mechanisms?
Except that the results of QM specifically show that no mechanisms (hidden variables) can explain the observed phenomena.
Now, if that *isn't* what you mean by a 'mechanism', then please be more clear. What qualifies as a 'mechanism'? Can you give an example?
You say we see mechanisms all the time around us. Can you give an example and why you consider it to be a mechanism? And then tell whether you expect something similar to underly QM.
"no hidden variables" and mechanism can be/may be two different things. I need to see more about what space/time is. For now, our models are only based on the outcomes that we see.
see "how small is it 05" for what I mean as a mechanism.
A simple example would be watching a city full of cars from some altitude where you can't see people. maybe even speed the time scale up so they are moving at a speed where we can't see people. A math model could describe how the cars are behaving very accurately.
The missing mechanism is people living. The "no hidden variable" would be 'sometimes they suddenly crash into each other for no explicable reason". We can predict the number of crashes over time but we can't predict any one crash specifically.
Keep in mind, I only say "I think there is a mechanism.". I am not certain.
Can you offer one piece of evidence that there is none? Just one please?
anti-logical Fallacies of Ambiguity