RE: How to easily defeat any argument for God
August 9, 2019 at 8:52 pm
(This post was last modified: August 9, 2019 at 8:53 pm by GrandizerII.)
(August 9, 2019 at 5:55 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(August 9, 2019 at 4:01 pm)Acrobat Wrote: Okay, do you see Good morally speaking as a matter of opinion, like we might say of a good movie, or as a matter of truth?
Neither. Is that a problem for you? How do you know that what god is, is pure good? How do you know that what you think is good, is a god?
I think it's more he intuits the ideal "good" (I still can't really grasp this bit but whatever) as something so divine as to call it "god". The issue here, I think, is that even if we did acknowledge that there is this ideal "good", from the perspective of atheists, there's no good reason to call it "god" if it doesn't behave as the kind of god that many of us intuit to be "god". For me, a "god" would have to have a mind and be personal, something that Acrobat's god doesn't seem to have.
So it's basically Acrobat arguing that Y exists, because the X that we all agree (or at least happy to assume) exists Acrobat calls Y (even though we don't intuit it as such). It's pretty much a word game at the end of the day.
That said, I do have my suspicions, and I wouldn't be surprised if in a different sort of discussion later on, Acrobat will argue for a literal Jesus and a literal Incarnation which (I think) is antithetical to his alleged notion of god.