(August 13, 2019 at 11:39 am)Grandizer Wrote:(August 13, 2019 at 11:28 am)Acrobat Wrote: No I'm indicating that the reason both of us see wrong, is a result of the light, just as we see the objects in our rooms because of the light. You're making the mistake of conflating the object with the light of Goodness itself.
The light would be millions of years of evolution + natural selection, not God.
Quote:We both acknowledge that right and wrong/good and bad are objective truths. But you just try and brush the objectiveness of good, in a series of scientific/descriptive facts about x, when x contains no such thing.
2 isn't contained in any of the physical objects, but we have mathematical model that represents the separateness of one object from another identical object as "2". Similarly, "bad" isn't concretely contained in any physical act but if the act causes severe harm to millions of people, then due mainly to evolutionary conditioning we will see it is strongly "bad" (and if we're good moral philosophers [which I'm not], articulate the reasons exactly).
Just give it up. I'm revoking your membership into the moral realist club. You no longer subscribe to view of good as objective, but appear to be dwindling your way into the emotivist camp. Where good and bad, are just brain states.
I think your views would perhaps find a better home among them.