(August 15, 2019 at 12:45 pm)Acrobat Wrote:(August 15, 2019 at 12:37 pm)Grandizer Wrote: They're descriptors. They exist as part of the natural world as descriptors, not as objects with specific physical locations. But if you really, really want me to give the "location" of "good/bad", it's in the act itself.
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LINGUISTICS
a word or expression used to describe or identify something.
Is good identifying something objective or subjective?
Before you answer, think of my pizza example, Good there is a descriptor of something subjective, my personal taste. Don't make the mistake of my Pizza Taste realist, and try and say it's descriptor of the scientific facts about the pizza.
Quote: So where is the part where you showed that "good" exists apart from the natural?
By process of elimination. If objective goodness exists, and as I've shown it can't be reduced to any scientific/natural fact about x, then it's existence is non-natural.
Instead of hitting the Reply button straight away, can you please take the time to demonstrate how you eliminated naturalistic explanations for morality? All I keep seeing is you saying "X is not in Y, therefore X is in not Y", but you've not shown how "X is not in Y".
@Belaqua, maybe you can jump in here (when you can) and explain on his behalf?