(August 22, 2019 at 1:12 pm)Lek Wrote: Pantheism is a belief in God, which puts them in the camp with other believers. Pantheists believe that God became the universe, therefore "creating" the universe. Therefore they believe in a supernatural existence, which is in common with most other religions. Not created, never dying energy fits certain qualities given to God.
Of course, too, science can say that energy can't be created, but they have no idea of what the conditions were before the advent of time. In other words, science can't make a true determination of whether or not energy can be created or destroyed outside of our closed system. We can't depend on science for the ultimate truths. I'm having people in the forum telling me that God isn't real and having only scientific evidence to support their remarks.
Lets grant you for the sake of the argument that all your claims about science in the second paragraph are true. How does the limitation(s) of science make any of your claims of pantheism (and god/s) true?

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