RE: God, Energy and Matter
August 22, 2019 at 4:09 pm
(This post was last modified: August 22, 2019 at 4:13 pm by Lek.)
(August 22, 2019 at 1:57 pm)Deesse23 Wrote:It doesn't. It means that I think there are means other than natural one to come about the truth. If you dismiss these out of the gate, you probably won't find the truth.(August 22, 2019 at 1:12 pm)Lek Wrote: Pantheism is a belief in God, which puts them in the camp with other believers. Pantheists believe that God became the universe, therefore "creating" the universe. Therefore they believe in a supernatural existence, which is in common with most other religions. Not created, never dying energy fits certain qualities given to God.
Of course, too, science can say that energy can't be created, but they have no idea of what the conditions were before the advent of time. In other words, science can't make a true determination of whether or not energy can be created or destroyed outside of our closed system. We can't depend on science for the ultimate truths. I'm having people in the forum telling me that God isn't real and having only scientific evidence to support their remarks.
Lets grant you for the sake of the argument that all your claims about science in the second paragraph are true. How does the limitation(s) of science make any of your claims of pantheism (and god/s) true?
(August 22, 2019 at 1:40 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Just to make sure we understand each other, please trace for me the logical path from pantheism to Satan tempting Jesus in the wilderness.
Boru
In order to belief in the story of Satan tempting Jesus in the wilderness, you must believe in God or whatever that supernatural presence is to you. Pantheists believe in that.