RE: God, Energy and Matter
September 5, 2019 at 11:41 am
(This post was last modified: September 5, 2019 at 11:45 am by Simon Moon.)
(September 4, 2019 at 6:55 pm)Lek Wrote: God lets us know his way, not ours. And it might not be scientifically provable. He may also not be what you envisioned him to be.
As far as I can tell, gods aren't provable in any way, scientifically, logically, whatever.
Since every theist (including every Christian) I've ever talked to, has a different definition of their god, gods are not what theists envisioned him to be, either. Like, probably, nonexistent.
Quote:I think many atheists already know God exists, but won't let themselves believe because, like our culture, they think they need to scientifically prove everything. They end up spending their lives searching for God or trying to prove he doesn't exist.
Yeah, you have to believe this kind of nonsense, since the Bible says something like this in Romans 1:18-21.
As I have stated more times I can remember, one of my main motivations in life, is to believe as many true things as possible, and eliminate as many false beliefs as possible.
If a god or gods exist, I want to know about it. This motivation is my main reason for having these discussions with theists. I am not motivated to prove theists wrong, I am motivated to learn if theists are able to support their claims with good evidence, and reasoned argument. When I point out bad evidence and flawed arguments, it is not to prove theists wrong, it is to show why theist's arguments are unconvincing.
But, is it my fault that a 'god created me' with a brain that just won't let me accept claims of his existence as being true, without good evidence, and valid and sound logic to support their existence?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
