RE: God, Energy and Matter
September 5, 2019 at 4:55 pm
(This post was last modified: September 5, 2019 at 5:00 pm by Simon Moon.)
(September 5, 2019 at 1:30 pm)Lek Wrote: Obviously you're still not convinced that he doesn't exist because you continue to search. There's something going on there.
As I've stated many times in many threads on this forum, my position is not, "I am absolutely certain that gods don't exist", my position is "I am not convinced that gods do exist". Although, I am close to certain, for way to many reasons to list here.
Of course "there's something going on there". That something is, that the vast majority of humanity, believes in various gods, for what I can only see are irrational, unevidenced reasons. I want to know why, and if they have good reasons, I want to know about it.
My interest in why people believe in gods, is no different than my interest in why people believe in alien visitations, which I am also unconvinced of. So, does the fact that I open mindedly look at "evidence" people provide for alien visitations mean there must be, "something going on there"? Do I secretly or unconsciously believe in alien visitations?
Quote:I don't think you will find him based on your criteria and your resistance to faith.
As soon as someone can demonstrate to me how faith is a reliable path to knowledge, I will reevaluate it. As far as I can tell, it is indistinguishable from gullibility.
To continue to beat a dead horse, Hindus have faith, Muslims have faith, Zoroastrians have faith, Sikhs have faith, and they all have reached mutually exclusive god beliefs. This fact alone, is pretty strong evidence that faith is unreliable.
If your god is so hidden from the type of method, that he should know is the best way from telling fact from fantasy, why is that my fault? If he exists, he created my this way, unable to believe without good evidence and reasoned argument. And yet, he continues to fail to provide said evidence. Again, how can I be responsible for my disbelief?
Quote:Maybe you equate believing in God with accepting a particular religion. The thing with God is we have to do things his way.
Oh please...
After I left religion, I was a pantheist, and a deist for years. I am perfectly capable of understanding that belief in gods, does not have to equate with religion.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
