(September 11, 2019 at 5:03 pm)Lek Wrote:(September 11, 2019 at 12:38 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: And is that one the one that talks to you, or one of the ones that talk to others?
You’ve already lost me when it comes to earnest belief. You don’t actually believe that other people talk to god, or that this is a legitimate concept. We can see that in your easy derision. For all you know god was talking....to you,.....through that poster.
I’m just pinging the chasm of your inability to have faith in a god. Part of the human stain, I suppose. A preference, instead, for the voices you hear in your own head. Your own voice, elevated to the status of divinity, lol.
Can you explain the difference between what you’ve been posting, and what that poster did? Some reason not to make the same assumptions about you, that you make about him? Some reason to accept something when you say it, when you reject the same when others do?
This is, ofc, rhetorical. You and I both know that you can’t. So, perhaps...for the benefit of your own faith....you might want to accept that the things god might say aren’t limited to your own beliefs, the things you hear, things you can accept, or people you would accept it from. As I see it, if this chatty instructor of a god you believe in exists, you’re in school and class is in session. We lowly posters st af are just tools. It’s your soul being improved.
-shrugs-
Evidently you didn't get what I was trying to say by my analogy about Donald Trump many posts ago. We all interpret things that exist differently. We have different impressions and views of a certain item, but whatever our impressions are, the item is still what it is.
I've been seeking God and he has impressed me with his existence. I know he exists and I have my beliefs about who and what he is and the path to him. He has revealed himself to countless others who have their own beliefs. We all have the goal of reaching union with God. I'm following my path, but I can't say that someone else's path won't get them to their goal.
We may all have different views of God, but we know he exists and we all want to reach him. We're not going to understand God completely and I don't think he is so petty as to expect someone living in a situation, in which we only can have a limited vision of him, to do so. We don't need to be someone who completely understands God, but someone who wants to be with him.
I attend a christian church, not because I share all their views, but because we worship the same God, because regardless of our images of him, he still is the one God. They're my brothers and sisters in that regard.
(September 11, 2019 at 2:30 pm)Aegon Wrote: How has he impressed it on you? You should know the "whys" and "hows" when it comes to your own beliefs, no?
No. You believe the universe exists, but you don't know the "whys" and "hows". We all believe in stuff that we don't totally understand.
1. No one knows. Stop pretending you do.
2. There are many potential naturalistic explanations that address the "why" and "how" as well as or even better than God explanations do. For example, the universe necessarily exists because the alternative is not possible. You might not agree with this, but this at the least has as good an explanatory power as "universe is contingent on a being we know nothing about".
