RE: God, Energy and Matter
September 11, 2019 at 5:36 pm
(This post was last modified: September 11, 2019 at 5:48 pm by Lek.)
(September 11, 2019 at 3:11 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: But if AA allows alcoholics to change their predisposition given to them by 'god', then you must also believe that I can do something to change my situation, given to me by 'god', to do something about my predisposition of not being able to believe he exists without demonstrable evidence and reasoned argument.
What can I do about my situation, so I will believe without getting evidence?
Do what the alcoholic does, make a willful decision against that predisposition. Allow yourself to honestly seek God and be willing to believe what he impresses on you without requiring solid physical evidence. You have the ability to act against your predisposition. If you sincerely seek him and he doesn't give you any assurance, then you've done what you can, but as long as you require God to act on your terms, you won't get there. Sometimes it doesn't happen immediately, but so what? What is wrong with remaining open to meeting him on his terms?
Quote:What I meant was, if 'god' made me with the inability to believe he exists, without evidence and reasoned argument to support his existence, then I have no choice, do I?
If he made me to currently have the inability to believe he exists, but sometime in the future, something happens where I do believe he exists, then isn't that still his doing?
It's not that you don't have the ability to believe, but rather have a predisposition to require physical evidence. I'm sure that you have gone against that predisposition at times in your life. You said you were a christian for many years. God already gave you the ability to act against that predisposition. So no. I don't believe God makes us do anything against our free will.
Quote:Obviously, 1,000,000's of people die as atheists. If I were to die right now, I would die as an atheist. So, he obviously created some percentage of people to disbelieve he exists.
Like I said earlier, I don't believe we die when the body dies. I think we live on in whatever form, maybe another human body, until we reach God. Other forms may be good or bad.
(September 11, 2019 at 5:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:Quote:I attend a christian church, not because I share all their views, but because we worship the same God, because regardless of our images of him, he still is the one God. They're my brothers and sisters in that regard.
You've mentioned several times in this thread that there is only one God. Would you then be as comfortable worshiping in a mosque or a Shinto shrine? If it's all the same God, does it really make a difference where you worship?
Boru
I would worship in those places, but I would be uncomfortable because of language and cultural differences. There's a Sikh temple in the city and I've attended a wedding of a friend there, but I don't worship there for the same reasons. They we're very friendly, but I felt uncomfortable because I don't speak Punjabi and I don't wear a turban and have a foot long beard.
