RE: God, Energy and Matter
September 17, 2019 at 6:07 pm
(This post was last modified: September 17, 2019 at 6:51 pm by Simon Moon.)
(September 17, 2019 at 5:15 pm)Lek Wrote:(September 17, 2019 at 1:00 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: In other words, this god created humans with minds capable of coming up with ideas of what constitutes good evidence, with the result of coming up with every single real, demonstrable advancement known to humanity, i.e., medical science, computers, flight, space exploration, quantum mechanics, lifespans more than double of just 100 years ago, etc, etc.
How about the wonderful result of destroying the world we live in?
That's a Non sequitur response to the point I was making.
Maybe we should start playing "Fallacy Bingo" with your responses.
(September 17, 2019 at 5:15 pm)Lek Wrote: He doesn't want us to abandon using our minds. He wants us to expand our perception of reality
But you are claiming he is advocating a method, for which the reliability cannot be tested.
Quote:I think the ones with the smallest egos are the ones who desire to give our lives to God, rather than just doing everything we want.
Who is doing 'everything we want'?
You do understand that the most secular and atheistic countries in the world, tend to have: lower crime rates, lower infant mortality, better health care, lower poverty rates, better overall happiness rates, better education rates, better rates of upward mobility... than theist countries.
The percentage of atheists in the US prison population, is much lower than their representation in the general public.
Not too much evidence of atheists 'doing everything we want'.
Quote:Don't rely on theists to meet your burden of truth. If you're asking God to provide proof and you're convinced he hasn't, then blame him.
But all I have to go on, is the claims made by theists. I have no evidence of a god doing anything, let alone providing evidence of his existence.
But if he does exist, then he is to blame, for purposely hiding from the best methods humanity has developed for telling truth from fantasy.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.