(September 17, 2019 at 4:34 pm)Lek Wrote: My connection is that we think of God as being eternal - always existed and always will. I look into science and discover that energy and matter can not be created or destroyed, giving it an eternal quality which it shares with God. Pantheists believe that the universe is God. In this case matter would be God, and energy could be viewed as his creative force and what keeps the universe in existence.
Who ever said that god is eternal? Where did you get that information?
So your claim is that all matter is god? How exactly does that work? Is my chair god?
(September 17, 2019 at 4:34 pm)Lek Wrote: I think I answered this above. It was my own musing. I was coming with an example in which faith and nature were in agreement and soliciting comments.
Okay, so basically you have no real basis to say what you're saying, other than faith, correct?
(September 17, 2019 at 4:34 pm)Lek Wrote: i'm thinking that, if the pantheist view is correct, then God is energy and he is the effects of energy. Like God, the universe is eternal in it's purest form. Therefore are God and the universe one in the same? I make the possible connection because I'm a theist.
Saying, "if the pantheist view is correct" is a big leap. Who ever said the pantheists were correct? I'm not sure I think they are/were.
And, I don't know. Some people claim that god is "outside of the universe." Whatever that means. Why should anyone take your word over theirs? Or vice-versa, for that matter?
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
