(September 24, 2019 at 4:19 pm)EgoDeath Wrote:(September 24, 2019 at 4:11 pm)Aegon Wrote: I disagree. I think vengeance might have been a peripheral motive towards the end, particularly in "Felina," but the real characteristic driving Walt is pride. It's the same pride that caused him to snap and leave Gray Matter before the series starts, the same pride that rejects Elliot's offer to pay for his treatments, the same pride that propels him to make the purest meth on Earth, and the same pride that makes him a billionaire shipping drugs overseas when all he "needed" was $737,000.
I also think, while he does display some psychopathic tendencies, he isn't a psychopath. Despite using people as pawns in his plans on several occasions, he clearly empathizes. He sees Jesse as a son. Hank's death completely broke him. There's no doubt he cares for his family... he may have fabricated a bullshit story about the role of family in his psyche, but he undoubtedly loves Skyler and Walt Jr regardless. That's why I think it all comes back to pride - being the smartest in the room and winning at all costs. But when he is faced with the consequences of his actions, his reaction is anything but psychopathic.
1. What exactly are you disagreeing with? That Walt's pride was his motivating factor was my entire point.
2. I don't think psychopathy or sociopathy exist in this black-and-white way that a lot of people try to say it does. Regardless, arguing about whether or not Walt was a psychopath doesn't interest me. He certainly exhibited quite a lot of behavior that a psychopath would. So, yeah, I don't really care lol
(September 24, 2019 at 4:11 pm)Aegon Wrote: But to think of the show as a drama about meth is underselling it. It's a character study, that utilizes the drug world, but it's not about the drug world.
I never said the show was just "a drama about meth." You seem to be needlessly nitpicking here. Obviously, any show worth it's weight in dog shit will be about much more than what's on the surface. BB is worth it's weight in gold, if not more.
I disagree with the notion that he was seeking revenge on the world or anything like that. My argument is that he holds the same pride from the start of the series to the end, and it's never really about vengeance... I think that frustration with his position in life was a large factor, but secondary to the pride that was a part of him his whole life. Sorry, I love the show and have thought about Walt's character a ton lol. It is interesting to discuss his potential psychopathy.
I'm not attacking you, man, I agree with you. I'm not nitpicking anything you're saying, I'm just discussing...
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