RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 18, 2019 at 8:06 pm
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2019 at 8:11 pm by EgoDeath.)
(October 16, 2019 at 7:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Barack Obama.
Boru
(October 16, 2019 at 9:07 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: I'd vote for him.
Again.
If only he were an option.
(October 16, 2019 at 8:05 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: I think of the list, Biden would be the least bad candidate when one considers who is most likely to do lasting good in the current political reality.
In the context of a general election:
Sanders is a clueless ideologue of disaster to start with.
Warren has largely painted herself into the similarly untenable political tactical position as Sander.
Harris seems to be as thin skinned as and not a whole lot less conceited than trump.
Gabbard came across as a self promoter who won't stop short of seriously hurting the party's chances to cling on a little longer
This country is not color blind and Asian electorate is too small and fragmented for Yang to have any chance.
If trump isn't impeached and convicted by Next November all these 5 candidates would all help trump's chances for degrading this country for 4 more years.
Unfortunately, Yang probably doesn't have a chance, especially if current polls are any indication of how the country actually feels.
(October 16, 2019 at 9:01 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I still like Sanders, but I also like Gabbard and Yang. Gabbard is anti war, so that's great. I believe Yang is running on mandatory basic income, which is nice. Warren is better than most, but I'm afraid she'll fall short like Obama did. Biden and Harris can take a hike, as far as I'm concerned. I don't remember enough about the others to have any opinion.
UBI is the main reason I'd like to see Yang win.
(October 16, 2019 at 9:22 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Favorite: I keep wavering between Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren
Who is strongest against Trump: Biden
Unfortunately, you're probably right.
(October 16, 2019 at 9:32 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: I won’t say it outright, but I will say he bears a remarkable resemblance to Larry David.
Like it or not, there’s basically three main choices for the Democratic nominee that have any chance at the nomination, Biden has a depressingly long track record as a gaffe-spewing dinosaur whose politics still seem to be stuck in the Clinton years even as the party is moving far beyond it, and Elizabeth Warren, well, pushing a Cherokee Princess narrative on herself aside, the more I look at it, the more convinced I become that she’d just be a repeat of Hilary. She even had her own conservative phase, and an even longer one at that! Just compensate with a heaping dose of identity politics, and you get the strong impression that even if she wins the election by a wide margin, she’ll still lose. Just like Hilary. So you can see why I chose who I did.
Warren simply strikes me as Hillary 2.0.
(October 16, 2019 at 11:22 pm)Divinity Wrote: Elizabeth Warren.
Can't stand Tulsi Gabbard, and not a fan of Joe Biden. Gabbard is an Assad-nut who defends Donald Trump at every given chance. I don't trust her on the issues one bit. Biden has no fucking clue what he's doing. He's the John Kerry of the 2020 election. Sure, he'd be better. But he's not really going to inspire me or most other people.
What do you mean by an Assad-nut?
Sorry to say, that comment reminds me of this idiotic, bumbling NY Times writer who made similar comments, and then couldn't figure her way out of the conversation after she realized she had no clue what she was even saying.
(October 17, 2019 at 12:51 am)AFTT47 Wrote: It's Biden for me. He's no angel (none of us are) but he is a moderate which matches my preferences.
I will hold my nose and vote for who ever is running against Trump. I would vote for a homeless drunk living in a box under an overpass over Trump. But my preference is a moderate like Biden. Joe is a good and honorable man and of all the candidates, is my favorite.
I would love to see a woman President but I don't think we have a good field this time around. I think Hillary would have been great but I don't see any of the the current female candidates as compelling.
After Hillary's loss I don't think we'll see a female President any time soon. Then again, I don't really care if we do, or don't. You could be a purple, transsexual, Muslim Martian for all I care - if you're fit for the job you're fit for the job.
(October 17, 2019 at 1:20 am)Cecelia Wrote: So simply because Elizabeth Warren is a woman you charge her with 'identity politics'. Strange how that works.
Bernie Sanders is too old. He might not even survive to the election, in which case we're left with whoever he chose for Vice President. And if we're being honest, Bernie doesn't hire the best people. Especially if we look at the sexual harassment claims and how they were treated in the last primaries. I doubt that Bernie himself was aware, but the people he hired no doubt WERE aware. And they failed miserably. Not to mention the fact that they paid female employees at HIGHER positions less money, and I find it difficult to believe that Sanders is able to pick the right people, even if he has good ideas and a good record himself. And a number of his supporters are quite worrisome.
Elizabeth Warren on the other hand has led by example when it comes to Equal Pay. Her staffers are paid equally, regardless of their gender.
The fact that she USED to be a Republican is irrelevant. Donald Trump used to be a Democrat. He donated to Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton -- and is good friends with Bill Clinton. So I'm not sure why that argument really flies here.
It really is telling though, that Sanders supporters resort to this whole "Identity Politics" thing, which is a completely right-wing talking point. Especially when it comes to FEMALE candidates.
It doesn't trouble you that she used to be a Republican?
Also, can we please stop pretending like people on the right never make good points? Why is something automatically dismissed just because it's "a right-wing talking point?" Can the charge of identity politics never be a reasonable one?
edit:
Not that it's really even worth mentioning... but I have the biggest crush on Tulsi Gabbard and AOC

I loved Gabbard's appearance on the JRE.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.