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Alzheimers in heaven.
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RE: Alzheimers in heaven.
(October 21, 2019 at 8:00 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(October 20, 2019 at 10:32 am)Chad32 Wrote: I was always told you'd be "more you than you ever were" in heaven. I don't know what that's supposed to mean. If he's going to take out all the parts of me that he doesn't like, leaving only what he approves of, I may as well have alzheimers. I am the combination of all my parts. If you strip away too much, especially without my consent, then it won't be me in heaven. It'll just be a stripped down facsimile that calls itself Chad. That's not what I call a reward.

I've certainly heard different versions of "heaven will be better" before. However, being told you'll be "more than you were" does not mean you'll be less than you were, which is what your comment suggests.

You do bring up an interesting topic of identity. What makes you, you, and how much can be changed and removed before you're no longer you. From a first-person perspective your sense of self is wrapped up with your memories, often referred to as autobiographical memories. So, I would argue that as long as memories are left intact, almost everything else about you can change in heaven and you'll still be you.

That being said, are there memories which are in your best interest to have removed if heaven is to be a rewarding place? Take for example PTSD, which is intimately wrapped up with the memory of an event. Supposing there is no consent, should a deity remove negative memories of future heaven residents?

He'd pretty much need to remove any memory of mine having to do with people I liked who didn't get into heaven, and any memory I had of the parts in the bible that showed god being horrible. Memories would have to be affected, and if memories are a part of who I am, then it would effect part of me. I guess what it comes down to is, I don't trust this concept of heaven, if it depends on the whims of an individual I don't like.

We know our personage and memories are stored in the brain, because you can alter a person's brain, and they can become a new person, with different memories.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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Alzheimers in heaven. - by onlinebiker - October 20, 2019 at 9:20 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 20, 2019 at 9:30 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by no one - October 20, 2019 at 9:32 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Silver - October 20, 2019 at 9:41 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 20, 2019 at 10:00 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by arewethereyet - October 20, 2019 at 10:24 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Jehanne - October 20, 2019 at 1:59 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Silver - October 20, 2019 at 9:22 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Chad32 - October 20, 2019 at 10:32 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Rhizomorph13 - October 20, 2019 at 4:10 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by John 6IX Breezy - October 21, 2019 at 8:00 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Chad32 - October 21, 2019 at 10:40 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by John 6IX Breezy - October 21, 2019 at 11:02 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Chad32 - October 21, 2019 at 4:43 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by mordant - October 22, 2019 at 10:09 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by John 6IX Breezy - October 22, 2019 at 10:26 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by mordant - October 24, 2019 at 3:46 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by John 6IX Breezy - October 25, 2019 at 2:07 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by mordant - October 26, 2019 at 9:44 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by John 6IX Breezy - October 26, 2019 at 10:25 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Chad32 - October 22, 2019 at 10:35 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by brewer - October 20, 2019 at 10:57 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 20, 2019 at 10:59 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by onlinebiker - October 20, 2019 at 11:01 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 20, 2019 at 11:05 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 20, 2019 at 11:05 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 20, 2019 at 11:12 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by onlinebiker - October 20, 2019 at 12:36 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 20, 2019 at 2:57 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by onlinebiker - October 20, 2019 at 3:31 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by CarveTheFive - October 20, 2019 at 3:40 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by The Valkyrie - October 20, 2019 at 9:26 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 21, 2019 at 6:01 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 21, 2019 at 6:16 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 21, 2019 at 6:22 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by ignoramus - October 21, 2019 at 6:38 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 21, 2019 at 6:43 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Chad32 - October 21, 2019 at 7:06 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Little lunch - October 21, 2019 at 7:23 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 21, 2019 at 7:19 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 21, 2019 at 8:08 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Drich - October 21, 2019 at 10:21 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by onlinebiker - October 21, 2019 at 10:38 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Drich - October 22, 2019 at 3:17 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Rhizomorph13 - October 21, 2019 at 11:08 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Macoleco - October 21, 2019 at 12:39 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 21, 2019 at 2:05 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Macoleco - October 21, 2019 at 2:28 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by no one - October 21, 2019 at 1:08 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by onlinebiker - October 21, 2019 at 4:58 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by John 6IX Breezy - October 21, 2019 at 5:40 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by onlinebiker - October 21, 2019 at 6:14 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by John 6IX Breezy - October 21, 2019 at 6:42 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Rhizomorph13 - October 21, 2019 at 9:05 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 22, 2019 at 7:05 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Rhizomorph13 - October 22, 2019 at 10:16 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Little lunch - October 22, 2019 at 7:09 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 22, 2019 at 1:26 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 23, 2019 at 6:55 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by LastPoet - October 25, 2019 at 2:19 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 25, 2019 at 5:47 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Fireball - October 28, 2019 at 10:49 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Macoleco - October 26, 2019 at 10:58 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by onlinebiker - October 26, 2019 at 11:17 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 26, 2019 at 12:39 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by John 6IX Breezy - October 26, 2019 at 11:45 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Macoleco - October 26, 2019 at 7:23 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by John 6IX Breezy - October 26, 2019 at 8:36 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by mordant - October 28, 2019 at 9:32 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Chad32 - October 26, 2019 at 11:03 am
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by onlinebiker - October 26, 2019 at 1:17 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 26, 2019 at 2:44 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Chad32 - October 26, 2019 at 7:51 pm
RE: Alzheimers in heaven. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 27, 2019 at 6:07 am

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