(October 22, 2019 at 10:09 pm)mordant Wrote:(October 20, 2019 at 10:32 am)Chad32 Wrote: I was always told you'd be "more you than you ever were" in heaven. I don't know what that's supposed to mean. If he's going to take out all the parts of me that he doesn't like, leaving only what he approves of, I may as well have alzheimers. I am the combination of all my parts. If you strip away too much, especially without my consent, then it won't be me in heaven. It'll just be a stripped down facsimile that calls itself Chad. That's not what I call a reward.
Apart from how one is allegedly supposed to comport oneself in heaven, it is ETERNITY and I don't personally believe that we are adapted to it (in the sense of "natural selection"). As such ... hedonic tone insures that eventually, out of sheer boredom, one would not wish to have more new experiences. Even imagining biological immortality here on earth is hard for me to fathom beyond maybe a couple hundred years. Much less some sort of celestial theocracy. Maybe my curiosity and ability to experience novelty is more robust than I know, and I could go hundreds or thousands of years (especially if there were no real economic or experiential constraints somehow), but eternity, I'm quite certain, would be out of the question.
Therefore to exist happily in heaven one would have to be transformed into something other than human. Some have suggested a lobotomy. I don't know that it would have to be that crude, but I would no longer be me, and that is the same as there being no heaven for me. It'd be for someone else.
That's another point. Eternal life isn't going to feel so great once you've done everything that anyone can possibly think of doing, more times than anyone can count. You really would have to be transformed into an entirely different being, meaning there won't be anything left of who you were down here. That's not a reward. It's just cessation of existence. Which is what atheists believe will happen anyway.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html