RE: Singing the N-word
November 13, 2019 at 10:34 pm
(This post was last modified: November 13, 2019 at 10:47 pm by Hillbillyatheist.)
(November 13, 2019 at 7:10 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(November 13, 2019 at 1:13 am)Hillbillyatheist Wrote: I think people should be able to do what they want. if you want to sing along with a rap tune that says racial slurs, free country baby! just know that some folks will get pissed off. its up to you whether you give a shit about that or not. LOL
Personally, I don't like rap music. I'm a country fan. (and I don't care if that makes some folks call me a racist) anyway, I don't like being called a redneck by some elitist snob, like Bill Maher, used as a put down, but to be honest if Bill Maher was singing along with an Alan Jackson tune that had the word "redneck" in it, because he liked it, I wouldn't care. its all context for me. context should be the key. a word without context is meaningless.
from my experience the same applies with black people. (or anybody really) Some will take offense, some won't care. knowing your audience is advisable though with controversial stuff like this, unless you don't mind risking the blow back. beyond that its an individual choice.
anyway this thread calls for this hilarious clip from clerks 2. WARNING: NSFW!!! (contains profanity and racial slurs)
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Seriously, mate - what the fuck is wrong with you??
Boru
whats "wrong" with me is likely that I'm still a George Carlin liberal (I'd post an example but it'd be censored harder than the first clip I showed) in a new "woke" world where people don't have a sense of humor anymore. for those who didn't see it, the video censored there stared famous black comedian, wanda sykes as an angry customer dealing with a dolt who ignorantly used a racial slur and then dig himself into a deeper hole when confronted. and apparently here that's considered beyond the pale. I think its hilarious. if you don't, that's no skin off my nose. but this here is an example of why I rarely post online these days. I'm no republican but I honestly don't fit in with what passes for the left these days either.
(November 13, 2019 at 3:25 am)Grandizer Wrote:(November 13, 2019 at 1:13 am)Hillbillyatheist Wrote: Personally, I don't like rap music. I'm a country fan. (and I don't care if that makes some folks call me a racist) anyway, I don't like being called a redneck by some elitist snob, like Bill Maher, used as a put down, but to be honest if Bill Maher was singing along with an Alan Jackson tune that had the word "redneck" in it, because he liked it, I wouldn't care.
Redneck might be used as a derogatory term, but I don't think it's fair to black people for us to have that term compared to the N-word. Redneck, when used in a derogatory way, is just an insult. The N-word goes beyond just an insult.
classism vs racism. if you want to say blacks got screwed worse, I won't argue that point. I don't see how that negates mine though. I didn't make the case that they were equal.
in short what I was saying is context matters. white people say the slur in the movie roots and that used to be seen as a very liberal movie. I'd post an example but it'd likely get censored. it's a movie about slavery. so white people simply saying the word in my view isn't racist, unless they are calling people that. in the case of rap, its the same thing context. without context a word is meaningless. my second point is if you use the word some will take offense. some won't (black or white) and its your risk to take. knowing your audience is key. like here its against the rules, apparently in any context. LOL none of those points says anything about which slur is worse or which group got screwed worse.