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Age of Deconversion
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RE: Age of Deconversion
(November 22, 2019 at 2:57 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: OFC not, "israel" literally means "to struggle or wrestle with or against god".

-but doesn't this admission erode the premise of your earlier question and comments?  If god couldn't be boxed, as you've boxed god in, you wouldn't be accepting or worshipful either.  Correct?  

Mysterious ways doesn't work for you, you are emphatically not comfortable with such a god.  Or is that not a fair assessment?  Coincidentally, this is something that your god ordered..and then punished israel for failing to completely achieve.  What do you make of that?

Does this make you believe in god less, or reduce your desire to worship god?

No, I think it corroborates my point of not worshiping or obeying God if he's evil, all the while being certain he exists. Mysterious ways still applies, just not with the scenario you mentioned. The attitude behind mysterious ways, is that all things work together for good, even if they are not presently good; it allows for God to justify what happened in the future, because we may not have all the facts at the moment. That is different from God asking me to insert any phallic object into my neighbor's skull, which seems to be an immediate violation of what God stands for, and I would kindly decline.

As far as Israel goes, what specific event are you describing?
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Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 19, 2019 at 9:50 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Valkyrie - November 19, 2019 at 9:53 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by brewer - November 19, 2019 at 10:12 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Valkyrie - November 19, 2019 at 10:35 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Fireball - November 19, 2019 at 11:39 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by brewer - November 20, 2019 at 8:13 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Rev. Rye - November 19, 2019 at 10:16 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by no one - November 19, 2019 at 10:33 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 19, 2019 at 10:53 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by EgoDeath - November 19, 2019 at 11:20 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 19, 2019 at 11:25 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by EgoDeath - November 20, 2019 at 1:19 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by J a c k - November 20, 2019 at 12:00 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Little lunch - November 20, 2019 at 6:42 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 20, 2019 at 7:12 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Gwaithmir - November 20, 2019 at 7:32 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Mister Agenda - November 20, 2019 at 9:40 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Silver - November 20, 2019 at 10:19 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2019 at 1:20 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by EgoDeath - November 20, 2019 at 1:27 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Sal - November 20, 2019 at 1:25 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2019 at 1:40 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by downbeatplumb - November 20, 2019 at 2:45 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by arewethereyet - November 20, 2019 at 2:51 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 20, 2019 at 6:25 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by arewethereyet - November 20, 2019 at 6:45 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2019 at 6:50 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by chimp3 - November 20, 2019 at 8:14 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by mordant - November 20, 2019 at 8:27 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Chad32 - November 20, 2019 at 8:44 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 20, 2019 at 10:15 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by arewethereyet - November 20, 2019 at 10:28 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by chimp3 - November 21, 2019 at 1:48 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Sal - November 21, 2019 at 6:46 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2019 at 10:27 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 20, 2019 at 10:49 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2019 at 10:54 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 21, 2019 at 12:21 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Belacqua - November 21, 2019 at 12:47 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Alex K - November 21, 2019 at 1:51 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by LastPoet - November 21, 2019 at 3:29 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Mister Agenda - November 21, 2019 at 10:46 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by EgoDeath - November 21, 2019 at 3:29 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by arewethereyet - November 21, 2019 at 3:42 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by EgoDeath - November 21, 2019 at 3:44 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by LastPoet - November 21, 2019 at 3:49 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by EgoDeath - November 21, 2019 at 5:51 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 21, 2019 at 4:04 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Macoleco - November 21, 2019 at 3:56 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2019 at 4:06 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 21, 2019 at 4:13 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by LastPoet - November 21, 2019 at 4:12 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by zebo-the-fat - November 21, 2019 at 4:14 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2019 at 5:58 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by BrokenQuill92 - November 21, 2019 at 7:30 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 21, 2019 at 7:45 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2019 at 7:49 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Grandizer - November 21, 2019 at 8:00 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 21, 2019 at 10:42 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Grandizer - November 21, 2019 at 11:01 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by BrokenQuill92 - November 21, 2019 at 7:58 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by arewethereyet - November 21, 2019 at 7:59 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 21, 2019 at 8:08 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2019 at 10:04 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2019 at 11:39 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Grandizer - November 21, 2019 at 11:58 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 12:22 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Grandizer - November 22, 2019 at 12:26 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 12:30 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Grandizer - November 22, 2019 at 2:09 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Mister Agenda - November 22, 2019 at 9:55 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 11:23 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 2:22 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Succubus - November 22, 2019 at 3:32 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by downbeatplumb - November 23, 2019 at 6:23 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 23, 2019 at 10:54 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Silver - November 23, 2019 at 10:59 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by downbeatplumb - November 28, 2019 at 2:09 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 2:25 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 2:30 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 2:32 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Grandizer - November 22, 2019 at 2:40 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 3:45 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by LastPoet - November 22, 2019 at 4:02 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by arewethereyet - November 22, 2019 at 6:01 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 6:19 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by arewethereyet - November 22, 2019 at 6:33 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 2:43 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 2:41 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 2:46 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 2:55 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 2:57 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 3:22 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by LastPoet - November 22, 2019 at 3:07 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 3:12 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 3:27 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 3:41 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 3:53 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 3:46 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 3:56 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 4:12 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 4:06 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by LastPoet - November 22, 2019 at 4:09 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 4:21 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 4:36 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 4:40 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 4:39 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 4:46 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 4:59 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by possibletarian - November 25, 2019 at 12:32 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 5:16 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 5:35 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 5:55 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 6:05 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 6:35 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by zebo-the-fat - November 22, 2019 at 6:44 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 6:55 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 10:33 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 10:58 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 10:59 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 11:15 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 11:19 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 11:30 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 11:35 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 22, 2019 at 11:40 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Grandizer - November 22, 2019 at 11:56 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Fireball - November 23, 2019 at 12:36 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 24, 2019 at 6:40 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 24, 2019 at 11:53 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by brewer - November 25, 2019 at 10:30 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2019 at 11:40 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Southern Atheist - November 23, 2019 at 11:02 am
RE: Age of Deconversion - by Mister Agenda - November 23, 2019 at 4:26 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 23, 2019 at 5:03 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 23, 2019 at 9:35 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by arewethereyet - November 24, 2019 at 12:14 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2019 at 10:52 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by John 6IX Breezy - November 24, 2019 at 11:42 pm
RE: Age of Deconversion - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2019 at 11:47 pm

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