(December 7, 2019 at 12:06 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Beat on a guy who has a gun - don't expect good things to happen.
In fact - don't be a fucking cunt and keep your hands off other people.
Dumb kid had a phone. Call 911.
Or be the badass and "deliver a beatdown"
What could go wrong?
And how was Martin to know that Zimmerman had a gun? Was Zimmerman flashing it about first? Or did he wait until he was getting his ass handed to him by a seventeen year old to use it? Once again, I ask, do you think it was okay for Zimmerman to shoot, just because he was getting beat up?
Don't get me wrong, I'm an advocate of the second amendment. It's one of the few conservative positions I take (though it's sad that we even consider it a conservative position in the first place), and I've defended myself in situations where other people had guns, on more than one occasion.
You know what else I've done?
Walked away from plenty of situations where I was physically assaulted because I knew I had a gun on me and that things could've turned out far worse than just me getting punched in the face a couple of times.
Martin was just a seventeen year old walking home from the corner store who was being harassed by a grown adult with with a firearm...
(December 7, 2019 at 1:31 pm)Divinity Wrote: Funny that the same people who INSIST they need a gun to protect themselves in case of an armed shooter... are also the ones who tell people "Don't go after an ARMED shooter! That's just stupid and asking for something bad to happen!"
When it's themselves: "I need a gun to protect my family!"
when it's someone else (especially when they're black teenagers): "They should just call 911."
(Nevermind that a 9/11 call probably gets Trayvon Shot by police)
Well, I'd have to disagree here. Being someone who's actually used their firearm, lawfully, to defend themselves, I would never recommend that someone else do anything other than call 9/11 and try to avoid the altercation unless absolutely necessary. This is for a couple of reasons...
1. I don't know how comfortable you are in potential life or death situations. Are you going to be able to keep calm when shots start flying, or are you going to panic and freeze up?
2. I don't know if you know how to properly handle a firearm.
3. I have zero information about any hypothetical situation we might be talking about... Even assuming that you can, a) handle yourself in extreme situations and, b) properly handle a firearm... Is it even plausible to try and attack the armed shooter? Maybe you only have a Glock 19 and the shooter has a fully automatic M4 with extra magazines on his belt and a .380 in his side pocket for backup... In that case, no, I wouldn't really suggest getting into a shootout with the guy.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
