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George Zimmerman suing parents of Trayvon Martin among others
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RE: George Zimmerman suing parents of Trayvon Martin among others
(December 8, 2019 at 7:50 am)Nomad Wrote:
(December 7, 2019 at 4:05 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: Don't get me wrong, I'm an advocate of the second amendment. It's one of the few conservative positions I take (though it's sad that we even consider it a conservative position in the first place), and I've defended myself in situations where other people had guns, on more than one occasion.

But the conservative position isn't advocating the second amendment.  It doesn't make gun ownership conditional on membership of a state run militia, which is clearly what the second amendment states.

To quote DC Vs Heller, as OLB pointed out:

Quote:District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, is a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to keep and bear arms, unconnected with service in a militia, for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home, and that the District of Columbia's handgun ban and requirement that lawfully owned rifles and shotguns be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock" violated this guarantee.

However, I can understand where you're coming from, as the original text of the second Amendment states:

Quote:A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

But, to be honest, even if your reasoning is that people should only be allowed to own guns in respect to being in a militia, I'd have to argue that it still stands that people should be allowed to own guns. Is the government now not more powerful than it was than? I mean, people have the right to try and protect themselves from tyranny, even if you find it wholly impossible that they'd ever be able to do so against the United States Military. And hell, I'd have to agree. There's no way that a group of rednecks with rifles in the woods is going to beat the U.S. Army, for example. It just isn't going to happen. But don't people have a right to at least try to fight against tyranny?
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RE: George Zimmerman suing parents of Trayvon Martin among others - by EgoDeath - December 9, 2019 at 2:32 am

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