[Serious] Time to embrace Islam!

[WinterHold]

I prefer news to theologian "scholars".
The point is that the majority of muslims believe death is the correct punishment for apostasy, according to the Quran. A fact you conveniently deny.

First of all, your exact claim was : Islam instructs to kill atheists. Now you backpedal to apostasy, great honesty.

Second, punishment for apostasy is not in the Qur'an, but in a hadith. This already shows how much news taught you about the religion.

Apostasy isn't simply changing belief, it means leaving the Muslim community after joining it, with the political intent of spreading disorder, and even then it's for the court to decide whether the case amounts to actual apostasy or not, this concept is comparable to treason as defined in common law.

You think scholars know better what the majority of muslims believe than statistics and polls? Oh well...

Yeah, that what being a scholar means: being better than the majority.

...and who gave them their certificate of being *correct*? Other scholars? And those got theirs from...?

The same way you listen(ed) to your professors with PhDs while shutting up without asking them this retarded question.

Weird, he saz the same about you. So who is correct and why? A question both of you cant answer.

You can say who is right by him dodging my question.

Which scholars? Those who agree with you or those who agree with Atlass? Those who advocate killing apostates or those who dont?
No thanks, i prefer to think for myself.

Atlas doesn't believe in scholars, just like you. He thinks the Qur'an is self-explanatory, when the Qur'an itself refers to exterior sources of inquiry[Muhammad's sayings].


Type Ibn baz, Al-Albani, Ibn taymya, ibn uthaymin as quick examples of notable scholars, see their fatwas about treating non muslim people, and in particular the evidence from sacred texts of their assertions.

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You can easily know who is telling the truth by checking the sources I bring, and the sources he brings.

My source is the source book of Islam -the Quran-.
His source is walls of text of sectarian scholars.

Choose.

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As for Klorophyll, do you know me? I think you know me, and have a big  grudge towards me; and you display signs of OCD regarding me. What's wrong with you? discuss your point and leave me alone, creep

I won't leave you spreading absolute nonsense in this kind of forums, people like you are the reason why we find it so difficult to articulate the claims of this religion well enough for them to even understand them.

If you want me to leave you, answer the eternal question : How do you pray according to the Qur'an alone ?

Relax.

https://atheistforums.org/thread-60123.html

And say hi to Shiite Muslims fighting Sunni Muslims for centuries over prayer.