RE: Search for Causes
January 3, 2020 at 9:39 pm
(This post was last modified: January 3, 2020 at 9:50 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 3, 2020 at 9:10 pm)Lek Wrote: No. God is whomever or whatever he is. I just happen to believe that he's supernatural, which is the view the vast majority of believers throughout history believed or believe. It makes sense to me.
That's not, at all, how those terms work. When we add the caveat things make sense "to me" we are explicitly acknowledging that they do not, in fact, make sense. This is the sort of novel and useless employment of terms that you're never going to slip past when we have these discussions.
On top of that, you're plain and simply wrong. Most people, who have believed in most of the gods, throughout most of history..did -not- view gods as "supernatural". That's why I asked you why you needed it. Whether you'd prayed on it, studied it, or received any enlightenment. The god that you believe in was a departure from the norm. There's an entire age named after the trend in belief.
What is it doing, for god..or for you, except saddling you both with shit that neither of you wants to or even can defend? As you say, a god, if it is, is what it is. A god, if it goes around curing cancer, does it however it does as well. Is there some specific reason that a god can't be natural, or that a god can't use natural means? If not, and you seem unattached to the notion now..why have you spent all these pages going to bat for it? It's useless and unimportant to you. Nothing but a liability. It's not even a good faith argument if we were going back and forth for the lulz.
I'm over here throwing you a lifeline. You don't have to say shit like this, or make arguments like these. You wanna know what, I bet that you don't even believe in the supernatural. It's just a word you use, an entirely pavlovian response. What's different about the supernatural that god uses from the world that god made? Nothing.
Or do you lack the conviction of your faith in the nature of gods creative act?
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