RE: Search for Causes
January 4, 2020 at 3:03 pm
(This post was last modified: January 4, 2020 at 3:08 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 4, 2020 at 1:41 pm)Lek Wrote: Just because I believe God is supernatural doesn't mean I would not accept a God who is totally natural if that was the case.Then the supernatural is not important to you, or your god, at all.
Quote:Also, a god who has control over nature to achieve his purposes is supernatural.Yeah, just as supernatural™ as me. I also have control over nature to achieve my own purposes. So do plants. Who cares? So what if you think god is supernatural? So is the universe god created from god magic. It's obvious that you use the term as an empty set. Lean in, or gtfo.
Quote:There's your circular reasoning. I say billions of educated, sane people believe or believed in God and the supernatural and you begin with with the premise that I'm proposing magic.Yes, billions of sane and educated people believe in magic. So what? It's a fact.
Quote:You use these kind of terms to try to denigrate what I say.Why would magic be denigrating to a person who believes in the supernatural?
Quote:Your premise is that the supernatural doesn't exist, therefore the argument can't be true. I say that God enlightened me and you say that that there could be other reasons why I believe that and, anyway, God doesn't exist, so God can't be one of the options. If you were open minded you would say "Wow, billions of people believe this. They're appear to be normal educated people. We've haven't proved that they are wrong. Maybe they are right. I don't believe it, but we need to further investigate this further anyway."Ad populum. A textbook example of sloppy thinking. The number of people who believe in something does not lend that something any credibility whatsoever. Do we need to go through the very long list of silly things that lots and lots of people believed? No, ofc not..because you know better. Thing is, we do and have studied the things that billions of educated and sane people believe, from a factual rather than magical basis, and it becomes clearer all the time why we believe the sorts of things we do.
This endless argument in bad faith is why people brush you off, why they don't invest in a conversation with you. Throwing you lifelines doesn't help either. You'd rather drown out of spite, lol. Good luck with god and that ego.
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