RE: Search for Causes
January 7, 2020 at 1:32 pm
(This post was last modified: January 7, 2020 at 1:50 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(January 5, 2020 at 7:54 pm)Lek Wrote:(January 4, 2020 at 11:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Sure. So, what is a logically sound, tangible, reliable method for investigating the god proposition? Or, more broadly, the supernatural proposition? Remember, we haven’t even adequately defined it yet. We have to do that first.
In response to your question, I thought it would be pretty easy to come up with a definition of God that I could clearly relate to you all. Actually, when I got into it I found it to be quite difficult. In fact, I really don't know who or what God is completely.
I appreciate you being candid.
Quote:Being limited in my perception by my earthly body and environment, I'm not capable of defining in words a being for which we have no words. I think rather that God is someone or something that we come to know in a limited way as he takes the initiative to reveal himself in his timing to those who seek him.
And, I suppose my response to this line of reasoning will always be: if you don’t know what something is or how it works, and you have no way to investigate or demonstrate it, then how have you determined it to be the cause of an experience or phenomenon? Or, how have you determined it to be a more likely cause than a natural cause? I feel we’ll just keep going around in circles until you can explain that to me.
Quote:I understand the supernatural as anything that exists that is not confined to following natural laws. God, other worlds of existence, ghosts, etc., fall under the category of supernatural.
So, these causes are a part of the natural world; they can interact with the natural world but are not confined by it, and their interactions with the world can’t be detected, even though every other effect of a natural cause in the world CAN be detected? That doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. Don’t you think the simpler explanation for such unexplained phenomena is that the causes are natural, and we just haven’t figured out what they are yet?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.