(January 16, 2020 at 2:45 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:(January 14, 2020 at 8:06 pm)sausagerock Wrote: Bible is explanation and instructions given to us by creators in exile, a pretty good Turing test, I would say.
Or, it's a work of fiction, heavily laden with metaphors, written by humans, to express their etiological beliefs and desires.
As I said, no one is arguing with you over whether metaphors exist, if that's the discussion that you think you've been having.
I'm not talking about the truth, i think it's stupid to assume we could know that about questions like these. I'm saying that it is worth acknowledging that creators might exist if we can be ones as well.
You were in pretty much denial of very apparent metaphors in this discussion (you even stated that there are metaphors before you again used the term "magic". To be clearer, even Jesus walking on water is not going to be magic if someone created this world and is running it, just as computers aren't magic to young children just because they can't explain how it works).