"Ice my panties" - that's funny. I am afraid it is you that has misinterpreted me quite a bit. I'm nowhere near a level of anxiety that I would need to per-verbally "ice my panties" (plus I'm more of a boxers guy anyway 
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I think what this really comes down to for you is not whether or not we should or should not "be nice", but your aversion to being told what to do ... or rather, your perception that you are being told what to do.
Summer or anyone else says, "hey guys, lets wrangle it in a bit, and make an attempt to respect each other," and you seem to interpret that as someone telling you, "stop swearing, stop thinking, stop being true to yourself and do as I told you and be nice to the imbeciles." She wasn't talking about just our treatment of trolls, but also the treatment of each other, which had gotten somewhat hostile on occasion. That is what I was referring to when I said this place had returned to a more pleasant atmosphere.
I think the real issue you have with this is not that summer was wrong, but rather that what you really want to say is, "I will not be told what to think say or do ... Fuck you!" --- even though you already know that she nor I would ever do that. (-tell you what to do that is)
Also, you'll notice that neither you nor I are being hostile and yet we are disagreeing and having a mild debate here. We can say shit, fuck, and damn-you and all the wonderful cuss words we enjoy and still remain anger free. This does not mean that one is never allowed to get angry or that hostility is not a useful tool. I was merely saying that it should never be used an opening defense against total imbeciles and certainly not against our own "brothers and sisters".
That being said, your point IS taken. You are defending your right to say "fuck you!" My point, was that no one was EVER trying to take that away and quite frankly, you know me ... I'm a guy who's going to jump right in there with you and say "fuck you dipshit!".
Meanwhile, I'm going to make an effort to curb unnecessary hostile behavior. Which is all we ever recommended.
I hope this clarifies my position on a matter I thought had long since been closed. Your position of "Fuck you Cinjin" has been noted ... and oddly enough is respected.
).I think what this really comes down to for you is not whether or not we should or should not "be nice", but your aversion to being told what to do ... or rather, your perception that you are being told what to do.
Summer or anyone else says, "hey guys, lets wrangle it in a bit, and make an attempt to respect each other," and you seem to interpret that as someone telling you, "stop swearing, stop thinking, stop being true to yourself and do as I told you and be nice to the imbeciles." She wasn't talking about just our treatment of trolls, but also the treatment of each other, which had gotten somewhat hostile on occasion. That is what I was referring to when I said this place had returned to a more pleasant atmosphere.
I think the real issue you have with this is not that summer was wrong, but rather that what you really want to say is, "I will not be told what to think say or do ... Fuck you!" --- even though you already know that she nor I would ever do that. (-tell you what to do that is)
Also, you'll notice that neither you nor I are being hostile and yet we are disagreeing and having a mild debate here. We can say shit, fuck, and damn-you and all the wonderful cuss words we enjoy and still remain anger free. This does not mean that one is never allowed to get angry or that hostility is not a useful tool. I was merely saying that it should never be used an opening defense against total imbeciles and certainly not against our own "brothers and sisters".
That being said, your point IS taken. You are defending your right to say "fuck you!" My point, was that no one was EVER trying to take that away and quite frankly, you know me ... I'm a guy who's going to jump right in there with you and say "fuck you dipshit!".
Meanwhile, I'm going to make an effort to curb unnecessary hostile behavior. Which is all we ever recommended.
I hope this clarifies my position on a matter I thought had long since been closed. Your position of "Fuck you Cinjin" has been noted ... and oddly enough is respected.
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