A member on another thread, in an attempt to derail the line of reasoning I was employing, asked me to explain the trinity in a way that was not an inherent self-contradicting formulation. His unstated claim was essentially, that the concept was not explainable, and therefore since it was part and parcel of of my religion, my religion was therefore false, in turn nullifying the particular argument I was making in part, as it was based upon presuppositions contained by the whole.
Well, for the few Christian who haunt these nether realms you'll be glad I have not enjoined the obvious attempt at a red herring distraction at that thread...
For the atheists...I'll here give a description of the trinity in language even you can understand without a seminary degree, which at once explains it and shows it contains no contradictions.
I was asked specifically (I'll paraphrase) 'how could God possibly be three persons yet one entity, how could he be Father, Son, and Holy spirit, yet a single being. How can you not see a contradiction in this description of god?'
my answer...He does it the same way I do,
I am Dave, an entity with a body that I Dave control, my being distinct from the body I inhabit, as evinced by the fact that I control the body, it does not control me, demonstrating that I Dave, am a spiritual being. As such, I came into existence by an act of my father Hank, making me also a Son. As a Son, I also acted, and brought into being my Son, Frank. I AM all three, Father, Son, and Spirit, one entity incorporate and known as DAVE.
To me, I am a person who has several characteristics that make me unique, My son sees another person with characteristics even I don't see, and my father sees me better than I or my son, as yet a third person still different from our perceptions. I am different from each perspective, and yet still the same one person without contradiction. Father, Son, and Spirit. Me.
If I can be all three persons in one, how much more so can God?
Good night.
Well, for the few Christian who haunt these nether realms you'll be glad I have not enjoined the obvious attempt at a red herring distraction at that thread...
For the atheists...I'll here give a description of the trinity in language even you can understand without a seminary degree, which at once explains it and shows it contains no contradictions.
I was asked specifically (I'll paraphrase) 'how could God possibly be three persons yet one entity, how could he be Father, Son, and Holy spirit, yet a single being. How can you not see a contradiction in this description of god?'
my answer...He does it the same way I do,
I am Dave, an entity with a body that I Dave control, my being distinct from the body I inhabit, as evinced by the fact that I control the body, it does not control me, demonstrating that I Dave, am a spiritual being. As such, I came into existence by an act of my father Hank, making me also a Son. As a Son, I also acted, and brought into being my Son, Frank. I AM all three, Father, Son, and Spirit, one entity incorporate and known as DAVE.
To me, I am a person who has several characteristics that make me unique, My son sees another person with characteristics even I don't see, and my father sees me better than I or my son, as yet a third person still different from our perceptions. I am different from each perspective, and yet still the same one person without contradiction. Father, Son, and Spirit. Me.
If I can be all three persons in one, how much more so can God?
Good night.
