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Where Did The Trinity Teaching Come From?
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Where Did The Trinity Teaching Come From?
ALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:

Although there are no scriptures in the Bible to support the trinity dogma (the 3-in-1 god), it remains the central doctrine for most of the 41,000 denominations within Christendom. Christendom's trinity, written in Article I of The Catholic Faith, is defined as follows:


"There is but ONE living and true GOD, everlasting, without body, parts, or passions; of infinite power, wisdom, and goodness; the maker and preserver of all things both visible and indivisible. And in unity of this Godhead there be THREE PERSONS Persons, of one substance, power, and eternity; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost."

http://www.sevenwholedays.org/2011/03/10/article-i/
http://mb-soft.com/believe/txc/thirtyni.htm


QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION:

1. Are there scriptures in the Bible that you think support the teaching of Trinity? If so, quote up to four (4) scriptural examples, and then explain why you have concluded that the verses are with reference to Christendom's trinity.


2. Why is it that trinity is found in pagan/false religions that never worshipped the God of the Judeo-Christian Bible? For instance, there were pagan trinities at least 200 years before Jesus came to the earth as a human.


3. If the Trinity is a Bible teaching, why is it that Jesus and his apostles who followed him around never taught anyone about the Trinity?


4. How is it that the Trinity teaching did not become "Christian" teaching until the Christianized Romans (who later called themselves Roman Catholics) copied the philosophy from pagan/false religions--AFTER the resurrected Jesus Christ returned to heaven?


5. Are the words "Trinity" and "Godhead" in the Bible? If so, were those words part of the original writings?
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RE: Where Did The Trinity Teaching Come From?
Yeah, you've started this thread before. Why don't you go pester some other forum with your shit. We don't care for your tedious ramblings.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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RE: Where Did The Trinity Teaching Come From?
Aw, shucks. This could have been an entertaining topic, watching people argue whether there is one nonexistent god, or three.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Where Did The Trinity Teaching Come From?
As I said, she started the same fucking thread last year, read it and weep (with laughter!) Big Grin
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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RE: Where Did The Trinity Teaching Come From?
Kay, if I was the marrying type, I'd ask you to marry me. But it's the thought that counts. Thanks for the link!
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Where Did The Trinity Teaching Come From?
(March 16, 2014 at 10:45 am)Tonus Wrote: Kay, if I was the marrying type, I'd ask you to marry me. But it's the thought that counts. Thanks for the link!

I am very flattered! But alas, I'm taken Wink
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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RE: Where Did The Trinity Teaching Come From?
I would assume it came from the new testament, where suddenly there's this son of Yahweh. It's supposed to be a monotheistic religion, so there can't be three people. That's the startings of a pantheon. So it has to be three aspects of one god, but still separate people.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: Where Did The Trinity Teaching Come From?
In essence, an half-arsed explanation for bullshit. Gotcha!
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RE: Where Did The Trinity Teaching Come From?
(March 16, 2014 at 11:17 am)LastPoet Wrote: In essence, an half-arsed explanation for bullshit. Gotcha!

Like much of the book.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: Where Did The Trinity Teaching Come From?
The earlier thread was much better than this one, Kay.
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