RE: Arguments against Soul
February 10, 2020 at 5:17 pm
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2020 at 5:28 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
@tackattack
Either soul is the best explanation for mind and morality..as you indicated, or it isn't.
I have no problem imagining a world in which you have a sixth sense that I don't, and a soul. I see no reason why, in that world where you have a sixth sense and a soul, that soul would be an explanation for mind or morality. I think that you're tacitly assuming too much. As though, if a soul existed, it explained either thing by default.
We can imagine any combination of these ideas you're playing with. That I don't have a soul but do have the sixth sense. That I have the sixth sense but not the soul. That I have both. In no combination does soul ever present itself as an explanation for morality or mind. Frankly, whether my morality depends on soul isn't even a credible issue of disagreement.
I know that you believe in soul. The existence of soul isn't even a productive discussion between us. Lay that aside. You believe in soul. I know that. What I don't know is why you believe that soul is an or even the best explanation for mind or morality. This is no small thing, and there's no necessary reason for us to disagree here. You indicated that your belief in soul was predicate on this claim..but is that true? Even if it isn't, that wouldn't mean that there was no soul - it would only mean that you had to find a way to more accurately communicate why you believe in their existence. You either believe in soul for this invalid reason, or you have some other not-blatantly-invalid reason for believing in soul. If it's the latter..I'm trying to help you articulate that - not trying to prove that there is no soul or meandering around in a useless conversation about it's existence.
Either soul is the best explanation for mind and morality..as you indicated, or it isn't.
I have no problem imagining a world in which you have a sixth sense that I don't, and a soul. I see no reason why, in that world where you have a sixth sense and a soul, that soul would be an explanation for mind or morality. I think that you're tacitly assuming too much. As though, if a soul existed, it explained either thing by default.
We can imagine any combination of these ideas you're playing with. That I don't have a soul but do have the sixth sense. That I have the sixth sense but not the soul. That I have both. In no combination does soul ever present itself as an explanation for morality or mind. Frankly, whether my morality depends on soul isn't even a credible issue of disagreement.
I know that you believe in soul. The existence of soul isn't even a productive discussion between us. Lay that aside. You believe in soul. I know that. What I don't know is why you believe that soul is an or even the best explanation for mind or morality. This is no small thing, and there's no necessary reason for us to disagree here. You indicated that your belief in soul was predicate on this claim..but is that true? Even if it isn't, that wouldn't mean that there was no soul - it would only mean that you had to find a way to more accurately communicate why you believe in their existence. You either believe in soul for this invalid reason, or you have some other not-blatantly-invalid reason for believing in soul. If it's the latter..I'm trying to help you articulate that - not trying to prove that there is no soul or meandering around in a useless conversation about it's existence.
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