RE: Agnosticism IS the most dishonest position
February 18, 2020 at 10:31 am
(This post was last modified: February 18, 2020 at 10:41 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Unless you were with Big Mo in that cave, your religion is a baseless assertion. Sure you want to run with that one?
We know what people have thought about gods...because they've written it down, you nutter. For as long as people have been writing about gods, people have been writing about not believing in them. People have been writing about gods for far longer than they've been writing about yours. Before they were writing it down, they were producing religious paraphernalia..or, in some cases, not doing so. All of this suggest that people were both believing and not believing, before they wrote about believing and not believing, which already dwarfs your infants god's place in history.
There was no adam and eve. Full stop.
You don't worship the same god that jews and christians do, you simply refer to some of their magic books as a borrowed ladder while claiming they got it wrong. Christians also do this. It would probably surprise you..but no one else reading, that the jews also did this. No matter, in the end, since the majority of people who have ever believed in god did not believe in the abrahamic god in the first place...and no matter how many people have ever believed in any god, there have always been people who did not.
Personally, I don't have a dog in the "too many gods" fight, so have that argument with someone else who does. I don't care how many gods there are, I have as much use for any of them as I do for yours. Precisely none. Further, you have a factually innacurrate view of what gods have been to the majority of people who have ever believed them. They are not, in fact, the "highest being". That's just one flavor of theistic belief. Believe whatever you like, tell people about those beliefs, sure...but don't expect your beliefs to take priority over simple facts of history that shouldn't and don't have to call them into question. That's just you saddling your own silly god with your own even sillier and patently ignorant mythical revisions to human history and origins.
-and none of it has anything do with agnosticism whatsoever. There are people in the world who don't claim to know that there is a god, and by brute force of demographics - the majority of them are your brethren believers. Some of them, sure, are not believers...but the only thing these people are telling you - between the lot of them, is that they don't personally know whether or not a god exists. Do you understand?
We know what people have thought about gods...because they've written it down, you nutter. For as long as people have been writing about gods, people have been writing about not believing in them. People have been writing about gods for far longer than they've been writing about yours. Before they were writing it down, they were producing religious paraphernalia..or, in some cases, not doing so. All of this suggest that people were both believing and not believing, before they wrote about believing and not believing, which already dwarfs your infants god's place in history.
There was no adam and eve. Full stop.
You don't worship the same god that jews and christians do, you simply refer to some of their magic books as a borrowed ladder while claiming they got it wrong. Christians also do this. It would probably surprise you..but no one else reading, that the jews also did this. No matter, in the end, since the majority of people who have ever believed in god did not believe in the abrahamic god in the first place...and no matter how many people have ever believed in any god, there have always been people who did not.
Personally, I don't have a dog in the "too many gods" fight, so have that argument with someone else who does. I don't care how many gods there are, I have as much use for any of them as I do for yours. Precisely none. Further, you have a factually innacurrate view of what gods have been to the majority of people who have ever believed them. They are not, in fact, the "highest being". That's just one flavor of theistic belief. Believe whatever you like, tell people about those beliefs, sure...but don't expect your beliefs to take priority over simple facts of history that shouldn't and don't have to call them into question. That's just you saddling your own silly god with your own even sillier and patently ignorant mythical revisions to human history and origins.
-and none of it has anything do with agnosticism whatsoever. There are people in the world who don't claim to know that there is a god, and by brute force of demographics - the majority of them are your brethren believers. Some of them, sure, are not believers...but the only thing these people are telling you - between the lot of them, is that they don't personally know whether or not a god exists. Do you understand?
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