RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
February 18, 2020 at 6:01 pm
(This post was last modified: February 18, 2020 at 6:08 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Continuing along with this fun discussion of all the ways that you've employed a stolen concept, we can return to your post 231. Wherein you state
This, I'd contend, is closer to what and why you actually believe what you do than any throwaway comment you've made about the content of cog sci. Unfortunately, you accept and assert scientific observation in the premise, requiring the genetic validity of that observation, as you explicitly conclude that such observation cannot be done. Again requiring the truth of that which you seek to disprove.
We used to have a lovely poster named Jormungandr who came up with a clever way to explain to people who did this why it was a logical nonstarter. We use a tool called a voltmeter to measure potential differences between two points in a circuit. This determines it's voltage. When we do this, we do not contend that we have not actually observed voltage, on account of how we've watched a needle swing on a face of an instrument. If you accept the genetic validity of such observations..and you must, you included them as assertions of fact in your premise, then you cannot then object to the same.
It is only because you framed your objection this way that it's invalid. If we can't observe consciousness, then we can't observe it's neural or behavioral correlates, either. If we can't observe voltage, then we can't make statements of fact based on the position of the needle of the voltmeter.
Quote:You can observe the neural correlates of consciousness and the behavioral correlates of consciousness, but not consciousness itself and/or its accompanying mental states, thoughts, etc.
This, I'd contend, is closer to what and why you actually believe what you do than any throwaway comment you've made about the content of cog sci. Unfortunately, you accept and assert scientific observation in the premise, requiring the genetic validity of that observation, as you explicitly conclude that such observation cannot be done. Again requiring the truth of that which you seek to disprove.
We used to have a lovely poster named Jormungandr who came up with a clever way to explain to people who did this why it was a logical nonstarter. We use a tool called a voltmeter to measure potential differences between two points in a circuit. This determines it's voltage. When we do this, we do not contend that we have not actually observed voltage, on account of how we've watched a needle swing on a face of an instrument. If you accept the genetic validity of such observations..and you must, you included them as assertions of fact in your premise, then you cannot then object to the same.
It is only because you framed your objection this way that it's invalid. If we can't observe consciousness, then we can't observe it's neural or behavioral correlates, either. If we can't observe voltage, then we can't make statements of fact based on the position of the needle of the voltmeter.
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