(March 2, 2020 at 9:45 am)Brian37 Wrote:(March 2, 2020 at 6:12 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The chief difference being Obama wasn't a democratic socialist, so people didn't already equate him with 5 year plans, gulags, and the ravening Red Horde.
Boru
Bernie was not praising Castro. He made a very bad argument yes, but he was not praising him. He was arguing that we can do many of the same things without becoming an authoritarian state. Just like many of our European allies have far better social safety nets and better wages for workers. Bernie fucked up making the argument like he did, yes, but he was not praising Castro.
Obama wasn't praising Castro because he liked authoritarians, but just like when a bad kid changes their tune, you are trying to push them in a better direction.
And Reagan did the same thing with Gorbachev. Was firm when he had to be, and challenged him to do the right thing.
That is not the same as what Trump does, whom literally wants to be an authoritarian himself.
That is a cogent, well-reasoned, articulate position. Now...
Do you have a source to support your claim that the medieval Church promoted literacy?
Boru
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