(March 2, 2020 at 6:04 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(March 2, 2020 at 5:49 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Hawking NEVER made the claim that "there is not god", What he said is, there was no need for a god to account for the origin of the universe.
You're lying, dear friend.
https://www.livescience.com/63854-stephe...o-god.html
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Hawking wrote. "For me this means that there is no possibility of a creator, because there is no time for a creator to have existed in."
He excluded any possibility of a god. It's exactly what "there is no god" means.
Repeat with me, atheists : Hawking said retarded, nonsensical shit about god.
While it is true, that this is a stronger statement than I have previously read by Hawking, he is not making a scientific claim. You do notice the phrase "for me", right? He is stating an opinion based on his scientific knowledge.
And no, he is not making "retarded, nonsensical shit about god", his position is based on the lack of: demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument, and, valid and sound logic to support the claim a god exists.
Your god claims are based on: ancient texts, indoctrination, flawed arguments.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
