RE: Agnosticism IS the most dishonest position
March 2, 2020 at 8:21 pm
(This post was last modified: March 2, 2020 at 8:34 pm by Peebothuhlu.)
(March 2, 2020 at 8:13 pm)Belacqua Wrote:(March 2, 2020 at 8:09 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: So.... you're a thiest, then?![]()
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How does that follow?
If I say: "I have heard this political justification many times from Americans," does this tell you that I'm not American? Or does it just say that Americans often say that thing (whereas, perhaps, Japanese people don't)?
Actually... given the way reading writen words works in English, yes.
Since we have no way of knowing the innitial writer's origins.... such a comment would leave the reader with the inclination that said writer was NOT American simply due to the phrasing.
As a non American, I would definately write such a sentence.
There would normally be other, defining words added to the sentence such as 'Other'.
*Note I am comming from a totally germaine, coloquial and uneducated back ground with respect to my understanding of my own 'native' language.
However, even given the above, you can directly see how I am using the language in regards to my self to illustrate my point.
Again, perhaps, it is your time spent within a completely different thought sphere which is shifting your 'Automatic' use of the Enlish language into which you were raised innitially?
Cheers.
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(March 2, 2020 at 8:13 pm)Belacqua Wrote:
(March 2, 2020 at 8:08 pm)Objectivist Wrote: We don't define a rock or a tree because these things are concrete.I'm pretty sure that geologists and plant biologists can define these things.
No Bel.
That's a completly different thing/phrase.
Geologists and Horoculturalists can define things that way because there are litterally things in existance to define.
Language is descripitve.
If there's nothing 'There' to descirbe?
You're effectivly either creating sounds/letter structures that mean nothing... Or you're using established, agreed upon (But still, in essence 'Random') words/phrases to wrap a 'Non-thing' in.
If I now type the word "Vorpal".
People on the forum can either look said word up to seek its meaning or they may actully already know know the origins, etymology and meaning of said word.
That the word, innitially, was 'Meaningless' now doesn't matter. It's entered coloquial parlance and so typing the word will produce meaningful results.
It still doesn't make the concept behind the word any more 'Real'.
EDIT: Also, see the above post by downbeatplumb... I think...
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