RE: Agnosticism IS the most dishonest position
March 5, 2020 at 4:19 pm
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2020 at 4:24 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 5, 2020 at 4:12 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Of course we don't need religions to behave morally. As I said before, morality is a theoretical problem for atheism, not a practical one. It does become a practical problem too when it comes to more complicated social issues, such abortion, homosexuality, etc. That's where we basically split ways. Being generous is universally regarded as good although it still lacks a justification for why it's good. And good is a very loose word itself. At least when we have holy books/theism we narrow this stuff down.There is no category of moral system that atheism poses any practical -or- theoretical problem to. Atheism is a position on god belief, not a position on morality.
My objections is then that your definitions are wrong.
Why do you think generosity is good? Chances are I would refer to the same things.
Quote:You still need to have good theoretical grounds to rule out his arguments.Why?
Quote:Of course I can state it's wrong without god. But my statement would be meaningless, objectively speaking. Skullfucking the neighbors' kid is something I know I will never do, but the challenge is with articulating this position based on sound definitions.Why would it be meaningless? The statement means the same thing to me in a world with or without a god. IDK, it may not mean the same thing to you, depending on whether there is or isn't a god..but it's a fair bet that it would still mean something.
Don't you think?
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