A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.

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We don't know what it's like to be a different animal.  Seeing us as being above them is myopic.  To use Nagel's example, a bat.  Bats live without the need for cities and inventions.  Why put so much value on things like houses and vehicles?  Bats take flight, live in caves and see with their ears.  That may be equally divine, as in god's chosen animal or not at all.  Who are we to say?  Do we speak for god?  I don't trust people who make such claims.  They speak in blank rhetoric and offer no substance.

Why should human beings presume to be divine creation?  It's pure narcissism and completely unfounded to do so.  At what point in human evolution did divine nature manifest?  With Flores Man?  Denisovan?  Neanderthal?  Were those cave dwelling, club wielders forsaken by god, like dogs and dolphins?  What a prick of a god. 

God is not fully knowable because people can't decide what he is.  I don't blame him.  He's just a character in a play.

You said: "We don't know what it's like to be a different animal"

Well we know what it's like to be animals period, I mean we are physically animals as well.

You said: "Bats live without the need for cities and inventions"

Bats doesn't even and never will comprehend what cities and true intentions is.

You said: "Bats take flight, live in caves and see with their ears.  That may be equally divine"

All of those are purely physical attributes.

You said: "Who are we to say?  Do we speak for god?"

Sure. All human beings can speak for God, especially the Prophets / Messengers.

You said: "I don't trust people who make such claims."

Ok, that's fine.

You said: "Why should human beings presume to be divine creation?"

Like I said because we manifest those spiritual qualities to the physical world.

You said: "At what point in human evolution did divine nature manifest?"

The human being has always been manifesting divine nature to the world even though out the physical evolutionary process.

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Hey Unity, can you hook me up with whoever you get your hallucinogens from?

Well you'll be out of luck. I don't smoke or drink.

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Oh really.

I'll just say this, humans teach and train dogs all the time, but dogs could never teach and train a human.

Shows you don't know shit. Here are videos of dogs teaching humans optimism

Fake Messiah, those dogs wasn't "teaching" the individuals. If anything at the very least the dogs in their own way was tying to bring comfort to the the individuals. If the dogs was trying to "teach" optimism by simply laying on their laps, then any animal in the world can teach optimism. Now mind you, I not saying those dogs are not smart, all animals have intelligence but we shouldn't act like a dog can be a human being's therapist.

Let me ask a couple of questions.

Are those the individuals personal dogs?

Were the dogs trained?

Those two questions plays a role in the context of the videos

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Let me ask you something:

Can the animal invent things?

Can the animal create develop highly advanced technology?

Can the animal build a city?

Can the animal build an entire state?

Can the animal build whole countries and entire civilizations?

How about this one for you: Can the animal go into orbit/space travel?

All of those things are manifestations of the divine reality that only the human being has.

 The answer is yes to all of the above..but I don't know why it would matter, since humans aren't less awesome just because animals can do things. What any of that has to do with the "divine"...is anyone's guess.

All of those questions are not yes and you know that.

Like I've been saying, all of those are the the manifestations in the physical world of the divine reality that only the human being possesses. We are the only animal species that can do those.