RE: Agnosticism IS the most dishonest position
March 6, 2020 at 7:47 pm
(This post was last modified: March 6, 2020 at 8:05 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 6, 2020 at 5:51 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: I think I didn't frame that correctly. There are true moral statements out there, but we disagee on which ones. And saying that moral realism = there are moral facts isn't, I think, correct. The word fact means, to me, a true logical statement, that could or couldn't be confirmed by external reality.Whereas I already knew you didn't frame that correctly. lol. OFC we disagree on what the relevant set of facts is. Humans disagree over facts all the time. However.....since we've agreed that it is fact which we base our morality on - I comfortably and without any concern whatsoever discard all non facts (like whether or not your silly ass god exists, or has anything to say, or where my soul might be) from my moral consideration - and you can no longer coherently field any error theorist objection whatsoever. You're done.
I just don't need those facts, and if those facts existed.....which they don't... they would be subjective rather than objective facts - by definition.
So, for example, if it is a fact that an open relationship is harmful, then it would be bad to be in an open relation. If and when an open relationship is not harmful...then it cannot be coherently said to be wrong. Following? Disagree? Didn't you think it was compelling when you asserted that the little girl Big Mo raped didn't have a problem with it, and no one else complained? Who was harmed..amiright?
Hell..maybe he drugged her first.
I'm not going to humor you for a second about not meaning to make a threat. Yes you did, and you believe it to be true. Have the courage of your own convictions..at least, cretin.
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