RE: Agnosticism IS the most dishonest position
March 12, 2020 at 3:00 pm
(This post was last modified: March 12, 2020 at 3:09 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Exactly.
Thing is, that's fine! As a moral realist, and as a value pluralist - and without any preference whatsoever for natural or non natural realism - I can honestly say that the value people place on the things that their magic book says is just fine by me.
I just want there to be some explanation of why that value should be a moral value. Our boy here keeps talking about failure.....but failure is a utilitarian value, not necessarily a moral -or- religious value. Let's imagine that some moral system is a failure on utilitarian grounds. So what? That wouldn't make it morally wrong.
The way I see it, we can fail six ways to sunday - and that failure can't demonstrate moral failure, only utilitarian failure. Fine, non-god systems™ don't work....but are they wrong......?
Thing is, that's fine! As a moral realist, and as a value pluralist - and without any preference whatsoever for natural or non natural realism - I can honestly say that the value people place on the things that their magic book says is just fine by me.
I just want there to be some explanation of why that value should be a moral value. Our boy here keeps talking about failure.....but failure is a utilitarian value, not necessarily a moral -or- religious value. Let's imagine that some moral system is a failure on utilitarian grounds. So what? That wouldn't make it morally wrong.
The way I see it, we can fail six ways to sunday - and that failure can't demonstrate moral failure, only utilitarian failure. Fine, non-god systems™ don't work....but are they wrong......?
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