RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the true face of murder
March 16, 2020 at 2:05 pm
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2020 at 2:06 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 13, 2020 at 12:10 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: It seems pretty clear from context that what you are expected to cease is violence. It doesn't seem to say 'kill them until they stop criticizing Muslim beliefs'.Magic book says a bunch of horrid shit......particularly about people who don't share the faith. It's all pretext for war. If that's uncharitable..so be it. The history of islams development doesn't exactly argue for a better interpretation, and it's not as if the warlords were just pulling stuff out of thin air.
You seem to be going with the least charitable interpretation of the verses possible. Granted, Allah via Gabriel via Muhammed should be able to be crystal clear; but since we're left trying to parse the thing, there are much more problematic suras than these.
That's the point of these threads that Winter posts. Each of them an attempt to grapple with an uncomfortable reality about his own religion...by dumping it all on sunni and shia hadiths.
I suppose that we all have our own criteria for judging magic books - but it's this sort of nonsense that concerns me the most. When they show a talent for turning vice into virtue, virtue to vice. The magic book in question is particularly casual in that regard. As exploration of other problematic suras would show.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
