Libertarian left and right

[reverendjeremiah]

Are we talking JFK, RFK, MLK, Lincoln? As in assassinated leaders?

nope..they arent anarcho syndicalists. Many of those people you listed were centrist, escept for MLK, who was a democratic socialist.

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However, the 'state' I was referring to is South Carolina; which I have good reason to believe exists. Even if I were an LL, I don't think that opining that states aren't a good idea doesn't mean they don't exist.

No..allow me to explain in more detail. The "state" is something that is not required. Sure, I am WELL aware that I live in a state, and that other people call certain things and places "state", but that doesnt mean that I agree with them. Political borders exist only in the imaginations of the people. In reality all people own an equal share of this planet together.

Is that more clear?

The syndicate would come together to ensure basic services kept flowing. It would no longer be done for money or profit, which means that the trades would take their time and ensure a quality product. In this money driven market, quantity ALWAYS takes presedence over quality. Slap it together, put a price tag on it and roll it out. human life and work is cheapened by money. In this situation not only would you receive your HRT for free, but you would not have to put up with the social stigma, as the Syndicate is all about "live and let live". Most of the laws in a society such as that would be more based on trade standards (safety rules, measurement standards, language standards for technology, etc..), and little to no social laws. Why steal when you own an equal share of the pie? Money makes it easier for people to steal.

How do you reconcile the fact that, for instance, automobiles last twice as long and require half the maintenance that they did thirty years ago with your stance that the market produces inferior quality?

I dont have to. Your question was so generalized and vague that reconciliation is not needed. When you approach me with some specific questions, with details, dates, companies, makes and models, then I will answer...or at least try to answer.

A quick answer would be that some cars made during a commmon time period are better than others. technology would get better, but quality steel and material have degreaded. So it really depends on what you, and I (in the name of fairness), consider is quality and what is not.



BTW - Ive seen quite a few 50's style Chevy's still in operation...but not too many hugo's or Gremlin's. But, then again, I just chit chatting the subject.

In the interest of neighborliness, it occurs to me that under both LLs and RLs the other would be able to construct their society: that is, the Syndicate wouldn't stop a nearby communtiy from doing market-based economics and the anarcho-capitalists wouldn't prevent a Syndicate co-op from being formed. So there should be peace between your houses.

Yes, for the most part, Syndicalists are very much anti-authoritarian. That means they are willing to live in peace as neighbors to most other types of government. In fact the syndicate, although they may not use a capitalist system in their community, would gladly do barter with the capitalists across the way. Of course, if we see slaves being sold we would more than likely cut all ties with the capitalist society. There are certain things we draw the line on.

The chances that the anarcho capitalists will demonize the syndicate is much more greater than the reverse happening, in my opinion, as capitalism has by its very nature a competitive and forceful property to it....but I see no reason why they both cant live in peace side by side.