RE: A.S.K. your way to proof.
April 28, 2020 at 3:50 pm
(This post was last modified: April 28, 2020 at 3:51 pm by Drich.)
(April 28, 2020 at 12:15 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:(April 28, 2020 at 11:01 am)Drich Wrote: 4% yeah you guys are setting the world on fire. when voltare the noted french atheist of the 1800's died he said (when atheism was at 3.5% within a 100 years all religion would be dead.) The international bible society bought his house and print bibles out of it now.
Why should I care what Voltaire's opinions on the future were or what happened to his house. There was no way to determine the percentage of atheists around the world in his day, where did you get 3.5% from?
because he was king atheist and started the movement and grandfather the same BS arguments you guys still use. IE if he was wrong about his prediction based on information and an understanding of God you guys still follow then he was wrong about his base beliefs IE you in turn are wrong where your beliefs cross.. Do you people not even understand your origins and shared beliefs?
his house being used is just insult to his proud proclamation.
(April 28, 2020 at 3:11 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:still 2 as not addressed to me.(April 27, 2020 at 10:08 pm)Jehanne Wrote: This is false. Early Christians had varying views of Jesus. The earliest simply saw him as being fully Jewish, as was Jesus' view of himself. Later groups began to see him, his life (which they mostly invented) and his death as having varying, often contradictory, meanings. The groups that, over time, established themselves became the proto-orthodox, which evolved, over time, into various orthodox factions of Christendom. The other groups were labeled as being "heretics" and/or simply died off over time.
Actually it's not false.
It may not be entirely correct with respect to the early communities, but when orthodox Christianity was codified, it is true.
By 325 in the creed developed at Nicaea, (which was argued about and non-unanimously voted on), he was said to be divine.
From then on, Christians declared him to be divine, (which makes no sense as Jesus was a Jew, and NO one approached the status of Yahweh, AND a "son of god" was simply a righteous man. In each of the gospels, the divinity is different. It is present that early, with different views.
In Hebrew culture, there were many divine beings, but none of them reached anything like the status of Yahweh.