RE: Ketogenic Diets against Epilepsy
May 19, 2020 at 8:59 am
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2020 at 9:03 am by FlatAssembler.)
(May 18, 2020 at 4:51 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:I am sorry, what does demonstrate mean? In Croatian, demonstrirati is usually used in reference to mathematical proofs, proofs of the theorems from axioms. And you sound a bit uninformed if you use it in some other science.(May 18, 2020 at 4:05 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: "Demonstrated" really isn't a word commonly used in science, since science usually doesn't deal with absolute certainty. And, when it comes to claims such as a diet being capable of treating some disease, I don't think you can even reach reasonable certainty.
“Demonstrated” is absolutely a word used in science, and it’s not synonymous with “absolute certainty.” Anyway, why did you ask the question if you don’t like the answer?
(May 18, 2020 at 4:24 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(May 18, 2020 at 4:05 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: "Demonstrated" really isn't a word commonly used in science, since science usually doesn't deal with absolute certainty. And, when it comes to claims such as a diet being capable of treating some disease, I don't think you can even reach reasonable certainty.
Well, yeah, fasting (which has similar physiological effects to ketogenic diet) has been recommended as a treatment for epilepsy since ancient times. But, guess what, so has bloodletting. Bloodletting has been used to treat various illnesses (including anaemia) for thousands of years, yet we now know it was, in best cases, a way to alleviate the symptoms without treating the underline cause, and, in most of the cases, it was actually counter-productive.
The chief difference is that bloodletting doesn’t work, ketosis does.
But it isn’t as if physicians are recommending ketogenic diets to all of their epileptic patients. A solid majority respond well to meds, about 30% do not. For these people, the diet is shown to work for the majority of them and to work very well.
Boru
I'd argue ketosis and bloodletting are remarkably similar. Both of them appear to sometimes alleviate the symptoms, yet there is no scientific explanation for how they could possibly work. And both of them have side-effects effects even more obvious than the effects.