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It's nice of you to mention the Guillotine, because the French revolution would never had succeeded without it. Without the terror the Guillotine put for the French corrupt royals -and their Christian bishops-  the success of the revolution would be no more.

So I gotta ask you; how is it legal and okay for western countries like France to use the Guillotine to clean the garbage in their communities, but we Muslims don't get that?

In other words we -Muslims- need our own French revolution, our own Guillotines to clean the garbage in our societies. You westerners would utilize the Guillotines soon enough too; I am sure. Especially when the right wing starts to roam more freely and commit more deadly crimes; you will miss capital punishment and will embed it again in your laws.

It's essential to cut a piece from corrupt criminals -like the French royals- because they are cutting our own bodies right now.

The Revolution would have succeeded with or without the guillotine - there are plenty of ways to kill people. 

Interestingly enough (and fatal to your very, very stupid argument), the guillotine was considered a more humane way to behead someone, as opposed to hacking at their neck with a sword or an axe.

Leaving aside for the moment the question of the morality of capital punishment, a legitimate comparison simply cannot be made between quickly and (mostly) painlessly executing a criminal and mutilating a criminal for life. The former has at least a nodding acquaintance with an enlightened society, while the latter is nothing more than primitive barbarism.

Boru

No, the guillotine was less "painful" for the arms of the executioner; it had nothing to do with the condemned. You see, the rebels had to cut "lots and lots of heads"; so using an axe or a sword would tire them.

But believe me, they didn't want their sentenced to rest under any fashion; there is a famous quote from that revolution that says:

https://simple.wikiquote.org/wiki/Denis_Diderot

• "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."-Denis Diderot
  

Humane my ass, Brian, get your head out of your imperialist-high horse's ass, would you?
Diderot is speaking about hanging royals with the entrails of priests, but you come wash it away by claiming the "guillotine" was a humane invention....I want to lol but I don't want to sound like a troll.

The guillotine was an instrument of terror that is light to the hand of executioners + costs way little than axes and swords.

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It's nice of you to mention the Guillotine, because the French revolution would never had succeeded without it. Without the terror the Guillotine put for the French corrupt royals -and their Christian bishops-  the success of the revolution would be no more.

So I gotta ask you; how is it legal and okay for western countries like France to use the Guillotine to clean the garbage in their communities, but we Muslims don't get that?

In other words we -Muslims- need our own French revolution, our own Guillotines to clean the garbage in our societies. You westerners would utilize the Guillotines soon enough too; I am sure. Especially when the right wing starts to roam more freely and commit more deadly crimes; you will miss capital punishment and will embed it again in your laws.

It's essential to cut a piece from corrupt criminals -like the French royals- because they are cutting our own bodies right now.

? What ?

The French revolution did NOT succeed.

It's chaos is what allowed Napoleon to rise to power and END the Revolution "Of the people, by the people." OR, as it's become (And demonstratably so) known as "The reign of terror."

I'm not the one saying whether the use of an amputating machine is a 'Good' thing. YOU are. I'm just offering a different example from history of a practice that it is YOU who are espousing.

So, you're NOT answering my question of;

"WHO gets to operate the limb amputating machine?"

Since, obviously, it CAN'T be the police in your opinioin since they are ALREADY terrorizing people.

THEN you have the temerity to say:

"It was okay for the French to do it. Why can't I do it?"

What, from the bottom of my actual heart, the FEK?

Do you NOT read how fekkin' stupid and moronic that sounds?

So... lets go back and have you please answer that first question, okay?

WHO gets to amputate the hands of the theives in your system?

Cheers.

Not at work.

But the guillotine was used by France until the late 70s.
Remember that I'm a Muslim. The Quran I believe in is 1400 years old, and its says to kill the killer. So I don't take my orders from the "French" or the "English".

Anyways, who gets to "amputate" is the council that the whole Muslims agree for it rule them. Of course to do that you need election. But the Arab/Muslim dictators arrest us and torture us with the aid of the west if we ever say that.

That's why we -Muslims- have no country that carry out our sentences.