(June 3, 2020 at 4:45 pm)Drich Wrote:(June 3, 2020 at 12:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Not really a miracle, though, is it? Robotics, cloning and grafting can all come about irrespective of God.
Similar to what Jehanne said, I’ll convert the day I wake up with my left eye regrown and fully functional.
Boru
it would be to those writing the bible would it not? shouldn't that be the standard of a miracle? other what separates God from science? God is the God of the natural observable world. science is the study of that world. science discovers aspects of God and makes it common knowledge. So what if 'science' recreate something god had only previously been able to do? does it make science any more powerful or God any less? If God creates and puts into place the systems of reproductive cloning that science has recorded and observed, and now science can repeat God's natural processes how does that devalue the creator when all you can do is copy what has been created? it is not like science is calling out into the void and demanding light life and the like. we are just learning how this world can be work or understood.
Who said anything about ‘devaluing the creator’? It’s perfectly possible that god started a long, convoluted chain of events that will one day give me a bionic eye. It’s equally possible that bionic eyes will be invented in a universe without god.
Boru
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